Interesting but do not trust Macron on anything, he’s part of the club.
Nextcloud and Infomaniak says hello.
Reinventing the wheel … Jisti cries in corner
Look, no offense, but had you check the github Readme, or the previous comments, as it is mentioned several times, and you would have found that it is just an integration of LiveKit in their internal communication system, called Tchap, and Tchap is just a customized non-federated Matrix server.
No wheel reinvented.
I haven’t quite understood, what LiveKit has to do with video conferencing. Isn’t that just some weird AI thingy?
https://github.com/livekit/livekit
It’s a framework to build audio/video AND AI agent interaction.
I guess they just didn’t use the AI part and then it’s a WebRTC framework.
MS about to swoop in with the yuge discounts…
Folks, you won’t believe how yuge these discounts are. The biggliest discounts ever. Many people are saying they’ve never seen one as big as this. Also, new 500% tarrifs on anyone who doesn’t buy office365.
Nota bene how the description omits the world “encryption”. Timeo Frenchmen et dona ferentes
Microsoft Teams is such a horrible piece of software that productivity will rise after abandoning Teams.
Care to elaborate?
I know many people who use Teams at work, and they aren’t complaining. Quite the opposite actually. Various announcements are no longer emails since they have been migrated to relevant Teams channels. This means that it’s way faster to scroll past announcements that are not particularly relevant to your work, and none of them clog up your inbox any more.The only real problem is CPU and RAM usage, but as long as your IT department is reasonably funded, that’s not a problem either.
Teams is slow, sluggish, buggy and crashes often. Slack is much better, so are many other tools.
Also, it always tries to open the office files within teams instead of the actual office application. The features are worse and everytime you receive a chat and want to check it, teams closes your file…great productivity
“How can we make slack even worse?”
Any exec who makes people use that should be fired
I get that government use needs to be stringently tested for security, and so things take a little longer. But really, there are PLENTY of good FOSS products in existence that can be used as a base framework and a head-start to things like this.
You don’t have to re-invent the wheel when you could easily fork Jitsi-meet and harden it/secure it to your needs in the government.
Jitsi is one of my top 5 FOSS projects that are basically already mature enough to be used in a professional setting
It’s literally the third word on the github readme of the project linked I’m the post :
Powered by LiveKit
Lovekiy is an open source framework for voice and video conferencing
Here’s an article on LiveKit if anyone else is interested.
It looks neat
Just created
In testing for the past year
The tech isn’t hard to copy, just had to be willing to go and do it themselves.
It is hard when they continually bribe your government
Huh, why not just https://www.opendesk.eu/
France has horrible laws for encryption, so how much do you want to bet this thing doesn’t have e2ee.
This is an Intel operation
Zoom has poor encryption. I have seen targeted ads a day after discussing very specific chemical reagents on zoom.
I’m not convinced Zoom doesn’t just sell your contact information to third parties.
Yeah, it was definitely that and not all the web browsing and searching you and your colleague did before, during, and after the meeting, and the meeting notes you sent over gmail/microsoft mail. 🙄
Zoom, Teams, Meet, and all the major providers do not have e2ee on by default. It’s a paid extra and almost nobody turns it on.
Mega uses e2ee by default, and it cannot be turned off.
Its FOSS (or I guess FLOSS for this case since they are French lol), meaning it doesn’t matter if the people creating the app are “good” or “bad” actors. A “good” actor can always create a fork or host their own instance.
FLOSS makes more sense than FOSS anyway.
French people are literally not able to fork it and add e2ee without the government’s permission.
France requires government approval for exporting any software with crypto
Source? I see the repo as MIT licensed so I don’t see why forking it and hosting our own instance would be a problem.
Non-french people can, of course.
End-to-end encryption (coming soon)
I hope they do work on e2ee and they it will indeed come soon.
We like to think EU abandoning tech companies will create a new privacy FOSS ecosystem, when in reality they will likely just recreate their own Tech corps like China and US now that they have skin in the game
This tool is developed for France’s administration, not for the public. They host the servers. So I don’t think e2ee is indeed a requirement.
Shouldn’t it be the other way around? I’d expect e2ee to be a requirement for anything for the administration even if their laws are a little funky (rules for thee not for me, etc).
- A tool used by a state employer only wouldn’t need e2ee, since they hold all the servers.
- The French government has long been trying to make encryption in use by its citizens inspectable by them (the French government)
Still a threat to themselves lol
This wasn’t built to be a great service, it was built to be a French controlled one.
Anyone tried it? How is it
Why would they name it “Visio”? That is already the name of a different Microsoft product.
An incentive for the users to also drop Microsoft products, starting with Visio?
Be like the French
Well, I wish you could just say that, but “the French” is not a consistent body of people.
While we have this team working on a sovereign suite, Macron is rushing a law to ban <15 years old on social network, so… they will soon require all users to provide an ID. It will have to go through a “trusted third-party”, not directly to Meta/Twitter/etc., and not to the gov directly, but we all know how much corporates and governments have been trustworthy historically. And once the data is collected, you’re just one law away from all abuse.
Needless to say that the teen will rush to VPN, so they also mentioned a potential ban on VPNs! (France would then join the short-list of great democratic VPN-banning countries: North Korea, China, Iran…)
Can we be like the Beneluxians or Scandinavians instead?
