Adobe’s CEO Shantanu Narayen is both selfish and short-sighted. Their weak leadership only compounds their problems.
That’s the modern CEO template
For real, and with the apparently boundless innovation and commitment to new heights in corporate disaster we’re seeing these days?
Pshaw. This dude is gonna have to destroy his company with a lot more focus and dedication than this to have even a glimpse at the leaderboards.
Pathetic.
I loved the Affinity stuff. Had completely replaced Adobe with Affinity before they got bought up and killed off.
Affinity photo isn’t dead, they released the suite for free, but did unfortunately inject AI into it, which thankfully you can ignore if you don’t pay for it.
However, as with all proprietary products owned by investment corporations, it’s currently at the ‘capture the market’ phase, after which it will enshittify, putting us in the same situation we are with adobe now. The only long-term solution is to adopt and donate to open-source alternatives, like Krita, Scribus, Inkscape, and Kdenlive.
That’s sort of what I meant. I’ve used the new Affinity software for a bit, and it’s technically great. But, at the same time, I know they’re not going to keep up with it, especially since it’s free. At best, they’ll use it to test new AI data farming techniques, but otherwise they’ll probably just let it sit and die.
Seriously: quick AI summary since I didn’t want to write this all up:
Godot operates on a non-profit, open-source model, supported by donations and corporate sponsorship through the Godot Foundation, rather than a traditional profit-driven software company. It is completely free and open-source under the MIT license, meaning no royalties, seat fees, or revenue cuts are taken from developers.
And Godot is rapidly gaining marketshare, at the cost of Unity:

And Valve’s success with the Deck seems like it might be a catalyst for Linux going mainstream.
And Europe is making a lot of moves towards digital sovereignty, too.
All signs point to us entering a golden age for open software.
It will be interesting to see how the AI bubble bursting, destroying trillions of dollars of fake tech company paper wealth, affects this transition. I expect it will accelerate the decline of Big Tech.
I’ve been pirating Photoshop since I was about 12. I ended up moving to Krita when Photoshop decided to stop detecting my pen after I eventually updated to Win11, and I’m glad I did.
My husband even offered to get me an Abobe subscription so I can keep using something I’m familiar with without jumping through hoops to pirate it, but I absolutely refuse to pay a subscription for a programme I should be able to buy outright, and I’d rather just change to something else altogether.
I don’t know why every fucking thing has to be a subscription with a shitass company attached to it that keeps fucking over customers.
with a shitass company attached to it that keeps fucking over customers.
That’s the worst part. You’re getting the money! Don’t you want money? Isn’t that the point?!
God damn, at least be rationally evil.
Subscriptions make constant, monthly passive income. It looks better to investors when you have constant income versus surges whenever you release a product.
Abode: “We should charge money to rotate a PDF. No not the image itself, just rotate view. Gotta make that a paid feature.”
If you find yourself in this situation, I recommend using PDFGear as a free solution.
Every time I get to make a pdf from PowerPoint. “One free pdf per month”. Gee thanks adobe
I believe hbomberguy’s next video is all about Adobe.
yes. the first hour preview on Patreon is pretty good already. I think 4 hours is the current estimation.
What alternative do we have ? Affinity was bought by canva years ago.
Krita for painting/drawing/animating, Gimp for Photoshop stuff, scribus for desktop publishing, and Kdenlive for video editing.
For pro it’s not an option. Ui not the same. You can’t use them like you do with adobe. Workflow should be seamless.
I have tried. Nope. Not today. I hope tomorrow. Only if devs try to work together.
Workflow should be seamless.
As if they match between “pro” applications.
Sorry this thing isn’t exactly like that thing, but if you were already used to this thing, you’d never worry about the program and all your work being remotely deleted.
The pros who changed over from FCP may be interested to hear that. As with anyone who did 3D animation who had to change the workflow they used. You do allude to the incredible lock-in that Adobe’s de facto monopoly has generated, though.
There’s PhotoGIMP to make the transition easier, and Krita I believe has the option to switch to Photoshop keyboard shortcuts, but if your criteria to switch is an exact 1:1 clone, then I believe you’ll be stuck with Adobe forever. As with any program switch, a little learning is necessary, and there’s many excellent tutorials available on youtube to make that switch easier.
Only if devs try to work together.
Consider donating to them! The devs of open-source programs are often trying to replicate what billion dollar corporations are doing with a budget a thousandth of the size.
Is there an alternative to Adobe for PDFs? I know Microsoft prints to PDF, but I need to be able to combine pdfs or rotate documents when I’ve scanned them upside down.
LibreOffice Draw works a treat for some tasks, but it basically converts the file into their format, and the app works like Microsoft Publisher. Then you export back to PDF at the end, if needed.
PDF Arranger is very basic and simple, but it does rotating, cropping, combining etc. And it’s open source.
I like Okular but I don’t do nearly as much PDF based tasks as some.
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I use “PDF Studio” (https://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/) and it’s great, no problems at all.
Sadly I have to keep one Windows machine with Acrobat installed because the tax authorities here use hideous Cthulhu-like many-tentacled “Dynamic Forms” documents that automatically transform into XML (ugh) and only work in Adobe/Windows. But other than tax returns, I only use PDF Studio.
I’ve started using https://bentopdf.com/ seems to have all of those features
If you are a LaTeX user, you can actually do this with LaTeX pdfpackages.
Been using Sterling PDF for times when I need to edit a PDF https://docs.stirlingpdf.com/Installation/Windows Installation
For just viewing or similar edits like rotating I use Okular, it works fine https://okular.kde.org/download/
OOTL - what did they do this time?
Apparently, they gave amateur cartoon animators 1 month to save their works before they will remove Adobe Animate off Adobe Suite. Adobe Flash would give them 3 years, and software would just change slightly. But this time it is not the same.
As a someone who been using either GIMP or pirated CS6 since 2012, havent been keeping hand on an Adobe pulse. What did they do this time? I know about subscription over the one time purchase thing. But what happened recently?
They’re calling it quits on their animation software, and a lot of people who used it in their workflow are very upset.
I see. Just checked a vid of some YouTube animation artist. They just gave Adobe animate 1 month before removing it from suite. Woah… Even Flash had few years to live after a discontinuation announcement.
I read somewhere that Star Trek Lower Decks and like, Bluey, and other big players used it too.
Like, if Star Trek is using your product, maybe keep it around?
Not just YouTube animators. Professional production companies making scripted televised cartoons use Animate.
It’s the animation equivalent of ending Photoshop or Premiere suddenly.
Adobe is utter garbage. I hate that they have the market cornered. Their monthly subscription model is infuriating.
PirateSoftware is still a thing? Edit: name writing
Did you just wake up from a coma?
Has he had a resurgence? Last I heard he was a joke.
OK, writing “PS” in a thread about Adobe products causes most people to associate the abbreviation with “PhotoShop” more than “Pirate Software”, who’s largely a nobody.
I only saw the comment after the edit
Sometimes I look at the Unity Game Engine’s stock history after that one “destroy all indie gaming” plan, and I remember companies are volatile organizations at the consumers’ mercy.
Did they fully backtrack out of that one?
Early 2010s I asked the company I worked for to approve some free game engines to be installed. The legal department returned a big no with pages of why Unity should not be allowed in the premises. We proceeded with Unreal, Blender and eventually Godot as tools any employee could install.
Unity was bad back them, it is just that people did not read the agreements and tech sheet. Their new leadership just made that more apparent.
Proton and Pirate Software gloating over the “downfall” of another…misery loves company I guess.
Adobe, Proton and Pirate Software - could we have one account that’s not completely terrible?
Why is Proton terrible?
CEO is maga who made statements on protons official accounts lobbying against Democrats because their corporate interests are bad for big tech and they (corporate Democrats ) all need to be thrown out, so MAGA is their stance.
They backpedaled hard and pretended it was a mistake. Their reasoning that Democrats are bad for big tech is because none of them showed up to their lobbying event for “anti-trust” laws, but JD Vance did.
Edit: to all the maga bots: Google is free. Fuck off with your “gotcha” bullshit. https://archive.ph/2025.01.15-162500/https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/so_that_happened/m7a91fs/
CEO is maga
Oh, JFC, can we stop with this bullshit already?
“CEO is maga” is the equivalent of going: “Lulzagna wants to force everybody on the planet to only eat lasagna and nothing else, because he tweeted ‘I like lasagna’ once”.
Context:
Trump was still in his “I hate social media because social media won’t force users to praise me” phase. He appointed a person known to be very pro-consumer and very anti big-tech to an important job at the DOJ. Democrat accounts defaulted to “whatever Trump does is bad” and started shitting on the pick. Proton CEO wrote:
Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.
Which is all literally just stating facts. The only opinion here is that the pick is good - which, from the standpoint of a company that supports privacy and consumers - makes sense.
That’s not what I’m referring to. You seen ignorant to their other comments.
Oh, please, don’t let me stop you from elaborating!
You maga bots don’t have access to Google?
LOL, another cutie calling me a “maga bot”, I absolutely love this :D
Have you tried reading what I linked earlier? That comment from your link is already mentioned there.
Then please provide details or links or something, because as someone who’s trying to figure out what’s going on here, you’re doing more arguing than explaining.
What? You maga bots don’t have Google?
It’s a bit shit of you to call me a maga bot just because I didn’t know something.
I don’t go on reddit any more anyway.
Thanks for the link, though, I’ll have a look now.Edit: Wow, that’s a bunch of crap from proton. I was thinking of switching to them. Crap.
I agree that corporate capture of dems is real, but to paint the magats as being for the little guy is insane!
He made a statement praising trump for his security pick. To me he was just pandering to trump so they aren’t on trumps radar about encrypted software.
They couldn’t give less of a shit about Trump or his radar - they’re based in Switzerland.
He literally only said that someone who is famous for being anti big-tech, and pro consumer is a good pick, because Proton are anti big-tech, and pro consumer.
How this grew to all this nonsense people write these days is a fucking mystery to me…
Even if his cabinet pick is anti big-tech and pro consumer, the administration couldn’t be further from that (super buds with Palantir and their fix for health care is… A trump website)
The comment was made in a year before Trump 2.0, at which point they weren’t best buds with big tech, quite the opposite, because Trump was at the tail end of throwing a hissy fit against big tech.
Oh I do recall him mucking about with Google and Apple and Meta, but with how fickle that man is, that’s hardly a point for anti big-tech
If they want to business in the USA hey have to pander to the panzshitter
First of all, that doesn’t matter to us, from the EU.
Secondly, read this.
Read it before, seem normal. It mentions info about who contacts the user, and elsewhere something about IP and logs. But if there business operating model is true they have no keys they can decrypt with. If they do them proton is no different tjam google
it’s a honeypot that is just going to hand your emails over to whoever asks, there is no secure 3rd party email service. you want secure emails you have to self-host and encrypt
Supposedly they don’t have the keys though. They could start logging on behalf of a government warrant, but I’m not sure past email would be accessible. Its not even accessible to me if I reset my password
For what i know only the subject is not protected.
The CEO made “questionable” comments regarding the Trump administration. IMHO, the comments on it are way overblown, and are half way reasonable considering he’s a CEO whose only job is to make the company money.
This is so nice. What happened that made it fall?
Edit: looked for the stock prices, and the chart at a monthly scale and up doesn’t look exciting at all
Looks like they tried to sunset “Animate”
Animate debuted in 1996 as FutureWave Software’s FutureSplash Animator. After a 1997 acquisition by Macromedia, FutureSplash Animator became Macromedia Flash. In 2005, Adobe bought Macromedia and renamed Macromedia Flash to Adobe Flash Professional. In 2015, the software became Adobe Animate CC. In its nearly 30 years of use, Animate has been used in numerous popular animated films and shows, including Star Trek: Lower Decks. Still, Adobe said on Monday that “new platforms and paradigms have emerged that better serve the needs of the user.”
Maybe because they announced they were killing the Adobe Animate? That’s the only thing ive heard but I’m not in-the-know.
That’s definitely what the image is referring to. They’ve already walked it back from “completely removing the ability to use or access the software with basically no notice” to “maintenance mode, no updates”
Yeah, i saw that as well. “Community backlash”. No shit? hahahahaha
Pirate Software talking at all kills me inside, maybe Adobe too.











