cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/46886810

The American president has invited Canada to become his country’s “51st state,” an idea that has infuriated most of Canada’s 40 million citizens.

Hence this suggestion: Why not expand the EU to include Canada? Is that so far-fetched an idea? In any case, Canadians have actually considered the question themselves. In February 2025, a survey conducted by Abacus Data on a sample of 1,500 people found that 44% of those polled supported the idea, compared to 34% who opposed it. Better the 28th EU country than the 51st US state!

One might object: Canada is not European, as required for EU membership by Article 49 of the EU Treaty. But what does “European” actually mean? The word cannot be understood in a strictly geographic sense, or Cyprus, closer to Asia, would not be part of the EU. So the term must be understood in a cultural sense.

As [Canadian Prime Minister Mark] Carney said in Paris, in March: Thanks to its French and British roots, Canada is “the most European of non-European countries.” He speaks from experience, having served as governor of the Bank of England (a post that is assigned based on merit, not nationality). Culturally and ideologically, Canada is close to European democracies: It shares the same belief in the welfare state, the same commitment to multilateralism and the same rejection of the death penalty or uncontrolled firearms.

Moreover, Canada is a Commonwealth monarchy that shares a king with the United Kingdom.

Even short of a formal application, it would be wiser for Ottawa to strengthen its ties with European democracies rather than with the Chinese regime. The temptation is there: Just before heading to Davos, Carney signed an agreement with Beijing to lower tariffs on electric vehicles imported from China.

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      Deterrence is not a replacement for defence.

      If you’re facing a predator that is larger than you are you going to gamble with your life with just bear spray and bear bangers?

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        Are you going to gamble your life with just a shotgun? The only way to truly be safe from a bear is with a rocket propelled grenade.

        Anyhow, the point is you were lying / wrong when you said “if we didn’t have our firearms things could’ve gone ugly”, because you didn’t actually need your firearms, since you didn’t use them, at least not as firearms.

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          Are you going to gamble your life with just a shotgun?

          If it were a life or death situation and I had to pick between bear spray, bear bangers or a 3” slug traveling at 1000 feet per second I will take the slug every time.

          because you didn’t actually need your firearms, since you didn’t use them, at least not as firearms.

          I fail to understand how you came to this conclusion, firearms serve multiple purpose and in our situation they were to ward off predators which they worked beautifully for such task.

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            You used them as a noisemaker, so you didn’t need a weapon. You sound like you are treating your gun as a security blanket. It makes you feel good to have it, even if you don’t actually need it. Maybe you cuddle with it, I don’t know.

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              You used them as a noisemaker,

              Yes.

              so you didn’t need a weapon

              What makes you say that?

              It makes you feel good to have it, even if you don’t actually need it.

              I’ll refer you to the many times I mentioned predator defence, also doesn’t mean I don’t target shoot or clay shoot as a hobby.

              Maybe you cuddle with it, I don’t know.

              If I wanted too I legally could, but I don’t, firearms stay in the safe.

      • Bear spray is very effective, probably more so than a gun, if you shit your pants at least at the sight of a bear (but usually it’s the other way around too).

        As a European that just shakes his head about Muricas love for kill tools, you don’t need a gun as average person. For rare cases there are strictly regulated permits. But otherwise I’m very glad that I don’t have to fear being shot by MAGAts. Or have basically no school-shooting etc. I sometimes think you’re stuck in the middle age or wild western or something like that…

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          Bear spray is very effective, probably more so than a gun

          No doubt bear spray is effective but there is always a chance the predator does not give a shit and is hungry enough to fight through it.

          As a European that just shakes his head about Muricas love for kill tools, you don’t need a gun as average person.

          I’m not too sure on Europe’s hunting history however, a lot Canadians still hunt for meat and resources, it’s tradition to a lot of people and has been rooted into our history.

          And certain people ultimately have no choice, they live or work so deep in Canada that getting a grocery store can be hours away.

          I sometimes think you’re stuck in the middle age or wild western or something like that…

          Everyone has different lives man, I’m sure there are things in your life that others could not relate to.