just play TF2
or marvel rivalsat this pointedit: maybe TF2 Is the better option(and its mods)
I play Marvel Rivals almost every day. Compared to Overwatch, it’s more casual and fun oriented, not that balanced at all. And its in third person, not first person. While Rivals has some Overwatch energy and can be played as a replacement, it is not a full replacement. And no other of these games will probably reach peak Overwatch and does not have the same charm.
BTW I recently installed Team Fortress 2 Classified, a mod that got its own Steam store page. It has lot of stuff from early TF2 days recreated and looks very interesting. Still need to try it out.
And its in third person, not first person.
ohhh yeah i forgot
it’s more casual and fun oriented, not that balanced at all
Yeah fair enough
BTW I recently installed Team Fortress 2 Classified, a mod that got its own Steam store page. It has lot of stuff from early TF2 days recreated and looks very interesting. Still need to try it out.
i think its also Team Fortress classic and maybe scraped tf2 features aswell
TF2 is a different game and Rivals is definitely not as good in areas that matter like gameplay and maps
These look like generic Chinese-overwatch characters.
Fuck whatever morons think dumb shit like this is acceptable:

I swear, everybody is such a goddamn sellout these days.
This dumb shit isn’t acceptable, and if I see something like this I just don’t go to the website.
“Jetpack cat”? Really? That desperate, huh?
why does this game ask for my phone no. to play?
I hate that shit. But there is actually a reason for. It’s part of their ongoing battle against cheaters or bad actors, as the game is free to play.
Activision does that with all their games now.
It’s the reason I won’t buy a new COD game.
Because it’s free to play and it’s supposed to be a deterrent to smurfing.
Smurfing was probably a side-effect. I remember their main reasoning was to ban people who trash talk in voice comms/chat so they cant just create new account using same number.
man, games are taken so seriously these days that they resort to smurfing.
It’s been that way for a long time. The term smurfing, I think, originated with Warcraft II.
The games I played didn’t have ranking. It was better.
It was an a****** dude that no one wanted to play against in high-ranking ladders because everyone knew his name because he was a f****** a******.
So he made two accounts. One called Papa Smurf and the other smurfette. Then proceeded to s*** on low-ranking. Players made fun of them and was he general a****** till everyone learned those names and started avoiding him as well.
Smurfing since its inception has been fundamentally something only assholes do where this whole purpose of being an a******.
Ranked systems only work if everybody only has one account. It’s also why most games restrict you to only one account for ranked purposes.
If you can’t be assed to cuss, stop using the words. All you are doing is making it harder to read what you are saying, and making yourself look like a child who will get in trouble for cussing. We aren’t on YouTube or whatever, you won’t have your content surpressed because you offended the advertisers delicate sensabilities.
Sorry, that rant was only half directed at you. I’m just frustrated at a world where using bad words is considered worse than literal nazi shit.
There used to be an r/EmreMains when the name first appeared in lore. That must have been almost 5 years ago, and now they’ve finally released the hero. I don’t know what they expected, but I’d figure that almost everyone who was there previously has moved on, I certainly have.

Did this guy live under a rock?
No thanks. I have 1000 hours in OW, but I’ve moved on.
I gave up on this game a long time ago. It took me longer than it should’ve to realize that “old Blizzard” is gone and not coming back.
Years for me. I spent years before realizing that I’m never getting a good matchmaker
I took a long break from overwatch after the release of overwatch 2, but they have been made some big changes that have brought me back.
No more heros locked behind battle passes, free loot boxes, 6v6, great performance, sound design and the new perk system is nice. The game is more balanced than it ever was as overwatch 1, even it it’s still not perfect.
I don’t agree with everything, paid skins are absurdly expensive, and heros do seem designed to sell skins, but that’s really not new either.
You seem knowledgeable about modern blizzard. What are the women who work there saying about equality? Would the breast milk thing happen again today?
I wouldn’t know anything about that, but with respect to the overwatch team, they don’t seem to be implicated in that controversy.
I can’t imagine the fight for equality in game dev is over, but at the same time I haven’t heard anything particularly controversial. If you have other evidence of wrong doing do let me know.
Huh, thanks.
Is Nanoblade genji back yet? That’s the reason I left for the final time
Well Ana now has a perk that gives speed boost to nano. That combo has always been good, but with that it would be even better.
It is kinda hard to call yourself a sequel when you’re basically the same exact game and literally the original game doesn’t even exist anymore.
I do not like that I paid for Overwatch 1 but now only have Overwatch 2.
The developers who made Terraria contemplated on a Terraria 2 and they were faced with the decision; continue developing Terraria as is or just try to make a Terraria 2.
Seems like they’ve instinctively chosen to keep supporting Terraria as is, because what can you do with a Terraria 2? When so many ideas and creations have been poured into one game? It sounded like Terraria 2 was going to be the same.
What if someone made the hytale of terraria?
The reason Hytale exists is and is popular is because outside of exploration (and creative mode) Minecraft kinda sucks. The combat is boring, the enemy variations (including bosses) are pretty limited, the survival element is trivialized within the first hour of the game, the progression is weird (to put it nicely). There’s so much to improve over Minecraft that something like Hytale or Vintage Story (which goes so far in the other direction that a comparison with Minecraft or Hytale becomes pointless) can exist.
The same isn’t true for Terraria. Terraria has taken its originally simplistic combat and turned it into something relatively deep with different classes all with their own unique twist to combat. The enemy variations are through the roof with not only different types of enemies depending on the biome but also depending on your progression. And the progression is the core of the game. The reason to play is to get good gear to beat a strong boss to get better gear to beat even stronger bosses. And finally there’s variety in building, automation and fishing. Terraria is a far more complete game than Minecraft which is why you’re never going to see the Hytale of Terraria.
Terraria does its thing so well you can’t just take everything Terraria does and do it better. You can only take things Terraria does well and do something different with it, like Core Keeper, Don’t Starve or Valheim. If you try to take everything Terraria does but do it bigger and better you’re going to end up with Starbound.
Calamity
I mean, there’s already Starbound…
In comparison, starbound feels soooooooooo dire of content.
The races being just a different skin felt so lazy. I thought there would be at least food bonuses.
Funnily enough, starbound is also 1.4.5, but the whole changelog from 1 is lesser than Terrarias last update. No individual update seemed like a justification for a new run.
Well… They did try to make Terraria Otherworld, but that game got cancelled and they fell back into supporting Terraria because it keeps printing money.
Counter-Strike would like a word.
You can still play the old counterstrike games
But not Global Offensive.
Global Offensive is still playable (at least the core gameplay) in the csgo_legacy branch of CS2 on Steam.
I don’t like CS2 either; but Global Offensive had already killed CS for me long before it was converted to CS2.
You can still play the og and cs source???
Thousands still play
You can play 1.5, 1.6, Conditon Zero, and Source.
You can’t play Global Offensive anymore, afaik. It did the same thing OW2 did, getting replaced entirely by CS2.
But CS2 is basically Global Offensive. They “just” ported it over to the new engine. All items were kept and you didn’t need to buy your items again, as it is the same account. Overwatch 2 on the other hand changed the entire formula (5v5 instead 6v6) and introduced lot of new game types and modes. So it’s not exactly the same situation. Having said this, I wish Valve would have created a new game id and store page for the new version of the game. Such a shame.
I believe CS:GO is still available through a beta branch of CS:2 but that the remaining custom servers are mostly empty.


I laughed out loud at Overwatch x Hello Kitty and Friends.
Pochacco my beloved
Overwatch is close to being a decade old btw.
It’s so unfortunate what they did to Overwatch, wonder how Jeff Kaplan and the original Team feels about all that.
As great as Jeff was, he’s the one that did all the stuff to Overwatch.
As far as I’ve heard/read he was never really interested in making a PVP game, he wanted to make Titan, the MMO. Then he got another chance with OW2 and the PVE mode, and even got an offer to make a separate dev team that would focus on PVP, so he could put his all into PVE, but declined, so the game was left to die (even though it never really died). Then PVE in OW2 was a bust again and he left.
Oh, I have never heard of that. Also forgot that he was still around when OW2 launched. Still believe it sucks big time to see a project go down this route especially after being such a big success. It might not be dead, but it definitely is just a shell of its past.
IIRC he just washed his hands and moved on from it, which probably was the right call given the Acti-Blizz merger and Microsoft buyout.
“Microslop”
Isnt every sequel “just the previous thing again?”
Sequels are meant to be drastic improvements from the first game. Like everything. Visuals, story continuation, character development, new mechanics and features .etc
Not good sequels, no.
IMO, a good sequel doesnt have to change too much to be good, and is usually close enough to be called “more of the same.”.
A good sequel is good because of its similarities to the first. Otherwise you end up with Zelda 2, which is widely regarded as the worst of the Zelda games because it changed so much (outside of a small but very vocal minority that liked it). Many movie sequels also try to change too much and end up suffering because of it. Return to Oz was an interesting movie, but I wouldn’t ever call it as good as the original. Aliens and Terminator 2 are both similar enough to their respective originals while still having minor tweaks that led to a good follow up.
So in the sense of a sequel, Overwatch 2 isn’t the worst, but I think it changed too much from the original and suffers because of it. And Blizzards decision to overwrite the original obviously plays a big part in many people’s dislike of the game.
It should be more of the same, but not “exactly the same or a little worse,” like OW2 is to OW1. It’s the EXACT same game, but with fewer features.
Final Fantasy is a decent example. They’re all more of the same gameplay, while having totally different and non-connected worlds/stories/characters (up until 10-2’s release, anyway).
Well I suppose thats kinda my point. The headline here is really bad. I understand what they are trying to get at, but they chose to word it pretty poorly.
Headline is a poor attempt at saying they are renaming it to just ‘Overwatch’ without the 2.
That is how I read it, what else could it mean?
It could mean “It’s just the same old shit but with 5 new heroes next week”
It’s this new trend of making a confusing headline so people click it for clarification.That the game “overwatch 2” is just a re-hash of the original “overwatch” game - not that it was renamed to be “overwatch”
I also had a hard time reading the post title, still think it’s idiotic, but now it makes more sense to me. I couldn’t understand what the original post title was trying to say.
Being a rehash/continuation of the same game was the case since Overwatch 2 came out as they dropped the PvE plans, so it wouldn’t be news.
Well, there might’ve been some change that made it even more like the original, which could’ve prompted such a title either way…
Right, which is why I thought it was weird there was an article being published about it and assumed it was untimely drivel since the game was released in 2022. Again, it didn’t make sense to me as posted and I had to click into the article to sort it out.
All that to say, it wasn’t abundantly clear to me just based on the title of the post.
Quake and Quake 2 would like a word.
I love both (personally like Quake 2 better) and consider Quake 2 to be “Quake 1 again.”
Though the visual tone of the game changed, it was still a fast paced action shooter with an identity that was different enough from Doom to be called “just Doom again.” Many improvements were made, but at its core it still felt like Quake. It didn’t feel like I was suddenly playing Mario, or even another shooter at the time like Turok, Heretic/Hexen, or GoldenEye.
I guess I am trying to say I understand what the headline is trying to say, but it doesn’t really do that good of a job.
Diablo and Diablo 2 entered the chat.
I think I actually took psychic damage reading that. Just… why.





















