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- antiquememesroadshow@lemmy.world
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- antiquememesroadshow@lemmy.world
Ahh simpler times.
Darmok and Jahlaad at Tanagra.
History must never be forgotten in all things
Not Even Doom Music
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Damn, I’m old.

Was at a cat cafe with my kids not too long ago. They had this breed of cat and it was being very affectionate with me and my son. So I say to her “you, you can haz cheeseburger” and my son (9 y/o) looks at me and asks “is that a reference to something?” So I pull out my phone and show him The Sacred
JediInternet Texts#NeverForget
I thought has was spelled with a z. Am I misremembering it, or am I thinking of the variants that came after?
Remember the good one days? Back in 2011, when we stayed up till 2am laughing at r/F7U12, Caturday Memes, and 60s Spider-Man.
Back when the memes were original and funny:

2011? Get off my lawn whippersnapper! I was lurking chan sites in 07 when I should have been underageb& and having a remotely decent time in highschool.
No one cries for EFG. His name has been long forgotten.
Seriously, I’m pretty certain EFG was the progenitor to f7u12, and 4chan was pissed that reddit kept stealing their memes and beating them until nothing but a horse shaped hole in the ground remained as reddit kept growing. Pretty sure I witnessed the first advice animal threads too. That little pup with the rainbow background was spammed to hell and back for around a month before it made its way to reddit.
And you get off my lawn…
All your base are belong to us…
removes onion from belt
holds it up toward a cloud in the sky
begins to clench onion-
… No. No.
Eh, howdy partner, you remember Digg?
Does anyone remember Digg?
… Remember when triforcing became a thing?
… Remember 4chan before the V for Vendetta mask got associated with it?
gaze drifts back toward onion
… Pepperidge … farm… remembers…
grins strangely
SUDDENLY FIRES MAH LAZOR AAAUGH WAHRBARGBL!
Digg and Diggnation have recently been revived
True, but… unless they’ve changed substantially since the last time I looked at them, they seem to be basically completely different things, very corpo, more or less wearing the brand names as skin suits.
Before Digg we memed on Usenet and IRC.
Before Digg, but after Usenet, I was on Something Awful. At least, as a lurker. I wasnt gonna pay to use a forum.
Trading taglines and signature files while downloading gifs at 300 baud (she was worth it) and my ip address was ‘3’.
(5 points for the reference)
Unfortunately, you’ll have to tell me about that, graybeard, as I …
… I am part of the one of the first eternal Septembers.
Except I was like 8, or 10, not a college student.
I am slightly older than you. lol
It was. I didn’t use 4chan because of its reputation, which is bad now, but it was also bad then too
(☞゚ヮ゚)☞
I was mostly playing Final Fantasy 11 in high school 😂
Archeologist: Close analysis of pixels in this artifact will tell us that it belongs to the late AOL/early digg.com era.
Holy shit! An actual meme! Not just some text on a fucking picture!
It’s literally just some text on a picture…?
It is one of the necessary conditions for a meme, but it is not sufficient.
I would argue it is either 1) neither necessary nor sufficient, or 2) that it is sufficient but not necessary. Which line depends on whether we are talking about something literally BEING a meme, or something merely having the potential to be a meme.
In the former case - whether something is a meme or not - having text is neither necessary nor sufficient. Adding text to an image does not a meme make, and equally some memes do not have text (or aren’t images at all).
In the latter - whether something could be a meme - adding text is sufficient to provide that potential. It may not be necessary (6-7 for example) but it could be enough.
A meme is any reusable, repeated format, literally speaking. You’re just gatekeeping.
Hey, if grandpa is old enough to recognize this one, he probably remembers the attempts by /b/ users to find some definition of “meme” (or at least internet memes) that excluded the garbage that reddit popularized to the point of ending up being shared by “normies” on facebook.
I get it, it used to be important to me too. Gatekeeping was the point for a lot of people who defined themselves by membership to a sort of secret internet “in-club” when they didn’t fit into any groups or cliques irl. At least, that was the case with me like 18 years ago or so.
It was never about the literal definition, but about making a definition for “internet in-joke” to create lines of separation between the in-group and the out-group.
At one point, “meme” was only synonymous with those rage faces. This was the 9gag days. It really grinded my gears. And this was indeed caused by normies adopting the term.
“Memes” being just rage faces and advice animals to the wider internet was probably the most infuriating time period for me.
It was like the whole world collectively and simultaneously chose the most embarassing ways to anthropomophize their emotions.
It’s happening again with the term “AI”.
Before “meme” was adopted, they were widely known as “image macros.”
Another term prior to “meme” was to refer to meme ideas as “fads”!
If it has not been imitated / repeated it’s literally not a meme. That’s not gatekeeping, it’s observing a definition.
You have even agreed with me in your definition. Posting a random picture with some text on it that you made that has imitated nothing is not a meme, it’s just a picture with text on it.
The picture is not necessarily the meme. The format is. That’s where you’re gatekeeping. Posting a random new picture with a caption on top, that’s still a meme format.
Oh, is that why this com is called memeformats and not memes? That’s a huge stretch to say “oh it’s a picture with words so it’s a meme”. No, it isn’t.
The ancient one awakens
Goddamnit.
I have seen this thousands of times, but this time, this particular time, for some reason…
The goddamned cheeseburger song from VeggieTales is now the soundtrack to my brain.










