Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA and somehow USA still sells arms to someone in somewhere else because business is business.
We only sell the guns (even to terrorist organizations), tanks and military jets, so… we are not responsible for the guns being used for bad things…
We sell guns to a lot of people. Should we be the world police and say what they can do with the stuff they bought from us? How do you feel about the US limiting the range and targets of the HIMARS systems we sent to Ukraine early in the war?
For the record, I absolutely agree that any aid provided by the USA to Israel should be conditional, and we should severely limit the types of weapons and systems sent there.
What did Obama do to stop it? You do understand the indigenous genocide is ongoing right? What did Obama do to stop the genocide of the palestinians? You understand that anything pissrael does can be blamed on the yanks because they’re the ones bankrolling and arming this so-called “country”?
And yes any genocide on this globe that has been carried out for almost the last 100 years has been done with yanKKKee weapons. Where do these terrorists keep getting the funding, the arms?? Why is it that the countries these terrorists keep terrorising end up as US vassals?
Ah yes, an opinion piece written by a notably not histrionic or atangonist little right wing radio commentator who became a US citizen in (checks notes) 2016, Jeff Kuhner.
Alright i didn’t have material about a conflict over a decade ago ready at hand, but broken clock and all that. The dude was right about what Obama’s action will lead to as we can see with the benefit of hindsight. Obamas failure to help Assad, but arm other extremists (al-Nusra) because they were fighting both ISIL and Assad and help them by drone bombing weddings, even though they had no real path for defeating both lead to ISIL becoming stronger and better armed. Thank god Assad prevailed I would say, but look at the dude currently head of state of syria. Which gives us the sad sad opportunity to see both, not just what happened due to Obamas I’m-playing-both-sides failing, but also what would have happened if he succeeded. (Edit: I replaced the wikipedia link with a link to an article by the grayzone)
Syria is to Obama, what Libya is to the Clintons, what Ukraine is to the Bidens.
And that still leaves my point about Obama failing to stop the genocide of palestinians and indigenous americans, even though he could have, completely unaddressed. But of course you would not focus on that, or the facts of Obamas foreign policy, but attack the source. Because you either know I’m right, or don’t know anything about Obamas foreign policy.
Good job using false choice to condition your support of Assad, the guy that was using to chemical weapons on his own people.
And to think you bitch about a US President allowing weapons to be sold to someone doing a genocide, while you openly support someone who was actually commiting genocide. 11/10 mental gymnastics there.
alright, lets ask the geopolitics understander which faction had a realistic view of defeating ISIL and governing Syria? My whole point is no, the US shouldn’t. They shouldn’t have been arming al-Nusrah lol
So what should the US do about al-Nursrah? Since we’re not the world police?
Also, pretty sure that openly supporting a genocidal dictator is against the rules of this community.
Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.
I would encourage you to delete, or clarify your support of Assad.
Hypothetically, I should report you, per the rules as well…
Block or ignore posts, comments, and users that irritate you in some way rather than engaging. Report if they are actually breaking community rules.
…but I think in earnest that you’ve gone too far down a rabbit hole and are saying things you don’t genuinely believe or fully understand the implications of.
I’m going to go ahead and follow other part of that rule and ignore you now. Frankly, it’s probably what is best for you at this point.
Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA.
Americans did genocide the native people of this continent. Must be Obama’s fault in 2008.
Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA and somehow USA still sells arms to someone in somewhere else because business is business.
We only sell the guns (even to terrorist organizations), tanks and military jets, so… we are not responsible for the guns being used for bad things…
We sell guns to a lot of people. Should we be the world police and say what they can do with the stuff they bought from us? How do you feel about the US limiting the range and targets of the HIMARS systems we sent to Ukraine early in the war?
For the record, I absolutely agree that any aid provided by the USA to Israel should be conditional, and we should severely limit the types of weapons and systems sent there.
What did Obama do to stop it? You do understand the indigenous genocide is ongoing right? What did Obama do to stop the genocide of the palestinians? You understand that anything pissrael does can be blamed on the yanks because they’re the ones bankrolling and arming this so-called “country”?
How does this keep happening: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/20/kuhner-how-obama-arms-al-qaeda/
And yes any genocide on this globe that has been carried out for almost the last 100 years has been done with yanKKKee weapons. Where do these terrorists keep getting the funding, the arms?? Why is it that the countries these terrorists keep terrorising end up as US vassals?
Ah yes, an opinion piece written by a notably not histrionic or atangonist little right wing radio commentator who became a US citizen in (checks notes) 2016, Jeff Kuhner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Kuhner
You should definitely read the articles and consider the source before you post then as fact.
Alright i didn’t have material about a conflict over a decade ago ready at hand, but broken clock and all that. The dude was right about what Obama’s action will lead to as we can see with the benefit of hindsight. Obamas failure to help Assad, but arm other extremists (al-Nusra) because they were fighting both ISIL and Assad and help them by drone bombing weddings, even though they had no real path for defeating both lead to ISIL becoming stronger and better armed. Thank god Assad prevailed I would say, but look at the dude currently head of state of syria. Which gives us the sad sad opportunity to see both, not just what happened due to Obamas I’m-playing-both-sides failing, but also what would have happened if he succeeded. (Edit: I replaced the wikipedia link with a link to an article by the grayzone)
Syria is to Obama, what Libya is to the Clintons, what Ukraine is to the Bidens.
And that still leaves my point about Obama failing to stop the genocide of palestinians and indigenous americans, even though he could have, completely unaddressed. But of course you would not focus on that, or the facts of Obamas foreign policy, but attack the source. Because you either know I’m right, or don’t know anything about Obamas foreign policy.
Just lead with this next time and let people really know who you are.
As the alternative to al-Nusrah or ISIL? Yeah thank god. Just say you don’t know what you’re talking about next time and save us both the trouble.
Good job using false choice to condition your support of Assad, the guy that was using to chemical weapons on his own people.
And to think you bitch about a US President allowing weapons to be sold to someone doing a genocide, while you openly support someone who was actually commiting genocide. 11/10 mental gymnastics there.
So, should the US be the world police or not?
alright, lets ask the geopolitics understander which faction had a realistic view of defeating ISIL and governing Syria? My whole point is no, the US shouldn’t. They shouldn’t have been arming al-Nusrah lol
So what should the US do about al-Nursrah? Since we’re not the world police?
Also, pretty sure that openly supporting a genocidal dictator is against the rules of this community.
I would encourage you to delete, or clarify your support of Assad.
Hypothetically, I should report you, per the rules as well…
…but I think in earnest that you’ve gone too far down a rabbit hole and are saying things you don’t genuinely believe or fully understand the implications of.
I’m going to go ahead and follow other part of that rule and ignore you now. Frankly, it’s probably what is best for you at this point.