• BranBucket@lemmy.world
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    Remember the Panama Papers?

    Yeah…

    As for the 9-5ers, how else are they gonna live? Just existing costs money in the US, and refusing to run the rat race still carries a social stigma in many places. The ideals of rugged individualism and the nuclear family as the base unit of society have eroded communities and people are somewhat isolated even in urban centers. Social media only fuels this effect by giving people a synthetic sense of community and belonging.

    No one’s likely to make waves until they see a direct threat to themselves or a community they identify with is at their doorstep.

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    heck you don’t even need epstein for the 9-5 thing. Its just pointless now. Work is selling you don’t get paid well but with the experience you will be able to increase your wage. if you do manage to save and make enough to get a mortgage you won’t keep it up long enough to pay it off and retire as you will be working at walmart in your 50’s. Timothy Learys advice has never made more sense.

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      It doesn’t work anymore. The owners have gotten too greedy, and taken so much from working people, that we can’t even make the bills with one of their jobs. The only thing to do is all decide not to work until we collectively bargain for better conditions, better pay.

      And get an honest CPI, as it’s understated for 50 years and we take a pay cut every year the difference between the 2-3 percent average cpi inflation under the changed metrics, and 5-8 percent that it was under the old unchanged standard, and that was just by 2008, before all of our inflation here.

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        I mean I always took his drop out was talking about the machine whether it be work or school or whatnot. What is you say is exactly why. If your working to be homeless you might as well just do whatever. maybe pick up work if its not corpo controlled here and there. cash under the table things for neighbors or such and growing things if you can. guerrilla planting and and harvesting. if your ok with it steal but only from the corps or the ultra wealthy or police or such.

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          This is what I’ve done and there’s plenty of room. Literally, the situation I’ve figured out could support a dozen people. The tricky part is convincing them to come out and play. Netflix and DoorDash are absolutely crippling bait. “turn on, tune in, drop out” is the whole quote. Think step 1 has been forced on most of us at this point and the waves of “content” we’re inundated with exist largely to prevent step 2 from bringing you anywhere meaningful

          On a more positive note, if anyone wants to disappear into the woods dm me for exfil ;)

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          If we organized together we could make our own communities that at a minimum could require a lot less money to get by without having a lower standard of living. We could help each other make a living in our small businesses, and we could start our own larger businesses.

          Why are we working for publicly traded soul less corporations? If they don’t pay enough to get by, we can just make our own companies to fill some of these needs that the profit motive is failing to provide. All of that as a sideshow too, the organization would first and foremost be marshalling our discontent, and actions, to act in concert to have impact. A general strike is on the horizon, it’s the only answer to the militarized government responses we will be looking at soon.

          Strikers don’t even have to march on buildings. They just don’t work. They can’t force everyone back to work, or hunt them all down and arrest them for not working.

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      for the third time?! Oh my god! I bet the consequences will be the same as the time he was found guilty and became a felon!

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        His approval ratings were in the 40s during the first two impeachments. We’re having 30 point seings towards the left in Texas now. Big difference in the conditions.

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          oh wow, he wasn’t even president when he became a convicted felon, I’m sure his 30 point whatever is going to save you yanks

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              if you’re British

              My cultural identity is more complicated than the gender identity of the people posting in 196.

              But I get your sentiment. Not sure why a canadian is keeping his pulse on texan local politics, but meh

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    Bottom line: NOBODY will be arrested as a result of the Epstein Files, and if they do, they will never be convicted. The “Epstein Files” have been through so many hands, all of which are reviled by one side or the other, that the chain of custody is irretrievably broken. None of it is reliable, and no jury would convict based on any of it as the sole evidence.

    I hate the whole situation, and would love to incarcerate any of them, but as a juror, I could never trust any of the evidence.

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        It’s been in the Biden administration hands, which MAGA doesn’t trust, and it’s been in MAGA hands, which nobody trusts. ALL of it is compromised, and I wouldn’t trust the validity of a single document from it as evidence strong enough to survive a courtroom challenge.

        As an internet commenter, I might accept it enough to make some nasty comments against PedoCons, but I would never rely on it to take away someone’s freedom, even if they are monsters.

        It’s okay, these MAGA Morons have all committed plenty of other crimes we can convict them for, if we can only show a little courage. A year in prison for corruption feels the same as a year for pedophilia, so it doesn’t really matter which crimes we convict them of, as long as we convict them of something, and they all offer a range of choices for indictments.

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    Do you think that anyone who’s part of the working class (yes that includes these 9 to 5’s you’re denigrating) has any power to actually do anything to the people that spent decades abusing war orphans, abducted kids and anyone they could get their hands on?

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        It’s a lot easier to get to some “poor” healthcare CEO than it is to get to a multi-billionaire like Musk, Zuck, or Trump.

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          Playing mario brothers single player it would be. But if we could play multiplayer, there would be nothing stopping us, if anonymous. We just need the system to play like that. Wait what are we talking about, mario kart obviously.

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    This is exactly why people attack the system and capitalism. They are not “extremist” they just understood the problem.