French President Emmanuel Macron has urged Europe to assert itself on the world stage, saying it is time to start acting like a “power”.

In the face of growing threats from China, Russia and now the US, he told a group of European newspapers that the continent faced a “wake-up call”.

"Are we ready to become a power? This is the question in the field of economy and finance, in defence and security, and in our democratic systems.

“In another era we might have said it is the moment to ‘assume our majority’,” he said ahead of an EU summit in Brussels later this week.

  • ARANDOMTURKISHGUY@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    This very hard. Europe down in recent years. Usa is dont care Europe. Rising far right population. Well very diffucult job.

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    Problem is - if you look at how “World Powers” behave, do you really wanna live in such countries?

    Which Europeans would just love to invade neighbors like Russia and USA?

    Which Europeans would love to deregulate their countries in order to enrich elites like USA?

    Or perhaps which Europeans would love to live under state surveillance while their country buys out foreign infrastructure like China?

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    I know how much the French hate Macron (with good reasons), but you can’t really argue against these points. Some things gotta happen. Federilization, another voting system etc. Otherwise EU will be undermined and destroyed by the superpowers and become a lot of small versailstates. We cant find in this world, when bound on hands and feet by a few orbans here and there…

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    As long as it’s not France’s idea of being a power… I have no interest in colonialism.

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      Yeah i truly dont like how France treats colonies. Like that one time they helped some colonist to get free from the british and now we have to deal with USA and its bullshit.

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    World powers don’t let shadow fleets sabotage their infrastructure without receiving a declaration of war in return.

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    That means cutting ties with Israel and the Zionist oligarchs trying to implement mass surveillance. They don’t seem to understand that basic reality though because they keep trying to force the digital ID through Zionist Larry Ellisons company Oracle onto their populace.

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        They’re the most successful Fascists at the moment and in parts of Europe have massive influence because they’re often supported by those amongst the power-hungry rich people who happen to be Jewish. This helps further normalized the tools of Autoritarianism in the countries were they have influence.

        (For avoidance of doubt I’m not saying "Rich = Jewish, I’m saying “Very Rich Jewish = Very Rich Non-Jewish = Fascist Supporting”)

        Mind you, I myself think Neoliberals are far more guilty of pushing for the implementation of tools of Authoritarianism in Europe than Zionists, mainly because Neoliberalism is an anti-Democracy ideology (it desires that the State - which is what is controlled by the voters - does not exerce its power in those domains that matter the most for Money - the neolibs call it “interfere in the Market” - i.e. for that which the vote controls to be a power second to Money, or in other words, make the power of voters secondary, the opposite of Democracy).

        Whilst Propaganda is the primary Neoliberal tool of control, Surveilance is the second one and Force Disguised As Fair and Legitimate (i.e. as “Justice”) is next, which is how we end up with Chat-Control, insanelly overbroad Anti-Terrorism Legislation and Anti-Demonstration Legislation.

        But yeah, there is reason to believe that the influence of Zionism in Europe mainly via the subset of the Jewish People here who are pro-Fascism, has probably helped a bit the expansion of authoritarianism in Europe.

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            Sure mate, some “ethnicities” are special and different from other people hence none of the rich people of those etnicities are Fascists.

            Also your expectation that they’re different from the rest of mankind and couldn’t possibly have Fascists in their midst hence anybody that claims they do must be against their race, ain’t at all you revealing yourself as Prejudiced and Racist.

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    This is like telling Lemmy US leftists that they need to start reinforcing their communities and getting social and start grassroots movements to get better representation in their states.

    It’s a great message, but the mob is too varied and complacent to actually treat the situation as dire as it really is.

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    He’s right.

    They need to focus on making every European nation a nuclear power. You can’t trust the US when we’re on our second consecutive brain-damaged president in a row.

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      Yeah, what a fantastic idea: let’s give the Orban’s and the Meloni’s of Europe (stable geniuses one and all) things that go boom and make a nice mushroom cloud.

      Fantastic.

      We already have two nuclear powers in Europe.

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    I lived in Strasbourg during the 2018 Christmas terrorist attack. French gendarmerie kicked ass. Europe needs a standing army. Go build one.

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      More than a standing army, it needs to act united and decisively. More power for the Euro parliament and leadership that can take charge of crisis situations without having to negotiate with every single member state.

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    No. They are not ready. If all your computers and phones “phone home” with “home” being your adversary’s country (that’s how USA deals with Europe in the last year), then you cannot call yourself a world power. Most PCs in Europe use Windows and MacOS. Almost all phones are either Android or iOS. And even if they managed to replace all the software with locally developed Linux, all recent (last 20 years) x86 PCs have either Intel Management Engine or AMD Security Technology. If they chose to make intensive efforts to replace their systems, computers and phones, it would take at least a decade to achieve this. And even then, the US would likely be able to penetrate their systems. It’s so much easier to yield to the Emperor of the Western World for the perennially submissive European serfs.

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    It’s less about being a power. The British Empire was “A Power”. The US is “A Power”. Russia has been “A Power” and wants people to think it still is. China is “A Power”.

    Unless you use it to the benefit of the people, it’s just posturing.

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    EU leaders are waking up slowly. When they finally wake up and start acting Ukraine will be part of Russia and Greenland part of US.

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    I really like Macron in his foreign policy mode, it just a shame he pissed the bed by opening a loophole that will be abused if ever an amoral president gets in power.