That’s consensus you are talking about, and it is indeed a myth, at scale.
Every consensus run organization I have seen chokes up at some point due to a failure of psychology. Statistically, something like more than 10% of the population are guaranteed to be a problem for cohesion, for various reasons. Many are just contrarians and self-identifying as an outsider requires social sabotage. Some are cruel, stupid, or violent. Many are “dark triad” and dangerously deceptive.
So any functional and sustainable system has to acknowledge that fact and plan around never having consensus. There are many approaches to this, and anarchism can work without everyone in lockstep, and still get things done and maintain principles.
Your statement suggests you think that anarchism is hands-off laissez-faire, it’s the opposite. Self governance is DIY and thus constant maintenance of rules and arrangements and goals, and solving problems mutually. An endless hands-on meeting, at least until we are able to automate such things.
See, self-governance involves mutual self-defense, and violence by poison is a mutual problem which requires a lot of coordination to solve, so people will be motivated to get it resolved quickly; dumping might be a very dangerous decision. Anarchism doesn’t let you be a lone wolf, you have to deal with groups of equals and mutual dependence everywhere you go.
See, self-governance involves mutual self-defense, and violence by poison is a mutual problem which requires a lot of coordination to solve, so people will be motivated to get it resolved quickly; dumping might be a very dangerous decision.
I’ve got some very bad news for you about the intransigence of human beings.
Yeah… I guess it’s just a bigger topic than I have time to tackle right now.
Enforcement would range from relentless requests to stop, and maybe blockade of some kinds, to sanction and exclusion. Self defence rules would be well agreed upon and might be physical. There is always a limit where coercion is necessary, anarchists just want it waaaay over there.
Justice discussions are harder than most, but we have a lot of rights documents to draw from.
Exclusion from a well organized community you live in or next to would make life very challenging.
Identifying dark triad individuals and redirecting them to other non-destructive tasks would help a lot.
That’s consensus you are talking about, and it is indeed a myth, at scale.
Every consensus run organization I have seen chokes up at some point due to a failure of psychology. Statistically, something like more than 10% of the population are guaranteed to be a problem for cohesion, for various reasons. Many are just contrarians and self-identifying as an outsider requires social sabotage. Some are cruel, stupid, or violent. Many are “dark triad” and dangerously deceptive.
So any functional and sustainable system has to acknowledge that fact and plan around never having consensus. There are many approaches to this, and anarchism can work without everyone in lockstep, and still get things done and maintain principles.
Your statement suggests you think that anarchism is hands-off laissez-faire, it’s the opposite. Self governance is DIY and thus constant maintenance of rules and arrangements and goals, and solving problems mutually. An endless hands-on meeting, at least until we are able to automate such things.
See, self-governance involves mutual self-defense, and violence by poison is a mutual problem which requires a lot of coordination to solve, so people will be motivated to get it resolved quickly; dumping might be a very dangerous decision. Anarchism doesn’t let you be a lone wolf, you have to deal with groups of equals and mutual dependence everywhere you go.
I’ve got some very bad news for you about the intransigence of human beings.
Intransigence is an annoying problem. An obstacle, not an invalidation.
Obstacles must be confronted, or the path will remain impassable.
Yeah… I guess it’s just a bigger topic than I have time to tackle right now.
Enforcement would range from relentless requests to stop, and maybe blockade of some kinds, to sanction and exclusion. Self defence rules would be well agreed upon and might be physical. There is always a limit where coercion is necessary, anarchists just want it waaaay over there.
Justice discussions are harder than most, but we have a lot of rights documents to draw from.
Exclusion from a well organized community you live in or next to would make life very challenging.
Identifying dark triad individuals and redirecting them to other non-destructive tasks would help a lot.