It’s not april fools yet

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        Im 500 in and still haven’t gotten a shiny clippy. At 1000 I heard theres supposed to be a guaranteed drop. So I should probably keep going right?

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        Please watch 15 minutes of unskippable ads to be eligible for Co Pilot Premium Plus loot boxes, some of which may contain a platinum WindowsCOPY NFT which can be exchanged for up to ten CopyOnBlockchain transactions.

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    I’ve just deployed bunch of win10-iot devices in an engineering workshop with write protection. Those are supported until 2032 so we’re good.

    Gonna continue running linux at home, tho. In the office, because of autodesk, we’re gonna have to have something windows.

    Fuck autodesk

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      I’m glad to see it was ai translation hallucination, I appreciate you and others in the thread providing a much more accurate link.

      That said, I wouldn’t be shocked if MS was behind an easily debunked and inflammatory article like this one. Then when they release their actual unpopular plan, people may say “well that’s not that bad compared to what that one article said they were doing.”

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    Not sure how they could be confident in the idea of selling hardware to users right now, considering even the cost of thin clients is stupidly high.

    Maybe there’s something I’m missing here.

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      They’re hoping for the every other release is half decent trend they have been following since win95

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    So this is my understanding:

    • Microsoft is moving to a subscription model OS
    • new tpm requirement
    • hardware is sold out and/or 3x more expensive because of Sam Altman
    • Microsoft is leaning into thin clients

    I see people celebrating this “stupid decision” by Microsoft and saying that it’s the year of the Linux desktop. Honestly, I’d love that outcome.

    But what if Microsoft is willing to destroy Windows right before the AI bubble pops, shift the entire industry away from consumer parts, get people to throw all their old devices in a landfill, and then recoup their losses when Trump inevitably bails out the industry?

    I always think about how Obama’s Cash for Clunkers got people to trade in their old, reliable cars for arguably shittier new cars with built-in Surveillance capabilities and planned obsolescence. It ended up ruining the used car market too. I wonder if we will see something like that for AI. “Trade in your pc for a free year of windows 12 and a new pc (thin client) to run it”

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      To be fair to Cash for Clunkers, the intent was to get people on better gas efficiency cars, not to downgrade people to worse cars. California policy is the one that mandated cameras on newer cars, but also to be fair there it does reduce incidents of crashing during reverse.

      I think Microsoft shouldn’t really be making plans around windows based on the state of the government today and should be concerned with how it changes just 6 months from now.

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        To be fair to Cash for Clunkers, the intent was to get people on better gas efficiency cars, not to downgrade people to worse cars.

        I was a supporter of the program at the time and agreed with that intent. However, In retrospect it was more of a handout to the auto industry. And whether intended or not, it hurt the used car market and got people to abandon very reliable (and more importantly, easily self repairable) cars that were built in the 90s.

        2008 was right around the time when automakers started adding more tech to cars. So that’s where my suspicions about surveilance comes in. In fact, an infamous vulnerability, which can be used to uniquely identify vehicles, was introduced into most US vehicles made after 2008.

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      Winboat, and run it in that, I do. No more Windows here (well in Winboat but that’s just a VM)

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        This is what I’ve done. Crash rate is high. Performance is degraded. Windows still involved, just hiding.

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    I don’t understand why I would want to buy a new computer so their OS can have their AI do that stuff that they want.

    Why don’t they just do it themselves then? I never asked for any of that shit.

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    At my job we are working with a few air gapped Windows machines which is already really annoying because Microslop doesn’t offer offline installers for anything related to Windows 11 anymore. I expect this to get even more difficult over time.

    Also:

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      Our work uses laptops and it’s already a pain in the ass with Microsoft office being subscription based cause they are often in areas with no internet or cell reception then bam, “please login”

      Fuck!

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      I’m as anti-M$ as anyone, but this just isn’t true. The windows update catalog still exists for offline patches

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        Ok, where can I download the Media Feature Pack for Windows 11 N as an offline installer?

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          That’s a whole different story…UWP apps offline for an EU build is a “best of luck to you, pal” thing

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            Why is this arbitrarily “a whole different story” and who said anything about UWP, it’s the media codecs we depend on. Windows 10 N offered an offline installer for that “optional feature” and now Microslop makes my life more difficult for no reason at all.

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              You specifically referenced the media pack, which in win 11 looks like it’s packaged as a pseudo Windows Store application. You also said Windows N, which is a different case (and the reason you even need it in the first place). I get the EU/GDPR thing, and yeah it’s probably a pain, but you said “doesn’t offer offline installers for anything relate to Windows 11 anymore”, without qualifying that is your specific niche case. Have you tried K-Lite? Do kids even use that anymore?

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                No alternative codecs wont do, the application we are building has a hard dependency on these specific dlls due to another dependency requiring them. It was also just one example of many excuse my hyperbole. Here is another one, try to get winget to work with a local package cache. You have to go to some third party developer for that. Want another one? How about debugging windows binaries in an offline environment. Reasonable requirement? Microsoft says no.

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      I knew this would be here…

      Look, I’m normally not one to defend M$ but this just isn’t the case. One dude who was on stage for something else, who yes worked for M$ but isn’t PR or anything, made that statement as an offhand comment. The press ran with it, as they are wont to do.

      Bottom line is, M$ never claimed W10 was their last os. It was “just some guy”.

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        By all accounts it was someone who didn’t speak English as their first language and described the version as “last” when they meant “latest”.

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    Win 11 was such a success, so it is of course absolutely logical Microslop will double down on going that way.