It’s YouTube music, which is showing popular “podcasts” on its explore page. Must be just because it’s popular because nothing in my algo on either youtube or YouTube music would suggest this shit.
Chivalry will not die while I draw breath.
Why is he wearing Templar tabard? The Templars were barely restrained religious fanatics that hoarded wealth and placed themselves above those around them…oh. So incel republicans?
Part of fascism is reducing everything to an aesthetic.
Much like an armband. Maybe with your fascist logo on it.
your fascist logo
Excuse you?
Part of fascism is reducing everything to an aesthetic
Maybe with your fascist logo on it.
Never thought I’d ever need to explain Nazi swastika armbands to someone…
they just thought the “you” was personal, but it is general
Yes.
Those are sharp words, mind where you point them.
Make it all conformity and make it easy to exclude others.
Nah, after trump was elected, every now and then YouTube wanna sneak in some incel stuff… It’s fucked up, and I hate I have to still use youtube in some occasions.
I can’t prove it but I just know they are making money on insecurities of young men and radicalizing them in the process.
You can prove it. YouTube gives ad revenue to affiliate and partner creators. Manosphere content pushes the argument that “Life is hard for men”—verifying the feelings of stress and FOMO and resentment and inadequacy natural for all in this social sphere; blame that as being “because modern women…blahblah”—presenting a worldview that puts that responsibility on another group that isn’t their audience; and then tears down some strawman of said “modern woman”.
This content validates the painful feelings that toxic masculinity tells young men to suppress, without giving a tangible responsibility to the target audience. The narrative is simple: men need good women to be successful; and woke women are bad. This narrative also provides a justification for any feelings of inadequacy that again shifts the blame onto women. If a man needs a good woman to be good, and you aren’t happy with your life, then that’s not your fault—it’s the fault of women!
The difficult aspect is that this content connects with real feelings that need to be validated; and many of them are based in reality. Like… HR is shredding your resumes, but that’s still true if the rep/higher-up is a man. Work culture is toxic, but not because of feminism. You probably aren’t doing as well as prior generations; but that’s the economy and the underlying trauma of 21st century chaos. School did fuck you over, but not because it “emasculates boys”. We can’t just attack their manosphere beliefs; and labeling it as Misogyny or Violent just makes young men identify with those labels. We have to provide an alternate worldview.
Tom Cruise lampooned these people in the 90s, its not a new thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y6zxvMtPE
V surprised how cute those alledged 10 feminists are, i guess they want those clicks
Considering the templars pissed on the cross… Lol
I know this is rich coming from someone who wears a surplus Czech army field jacket, but that guy comes across as an annoying dweeb with that shitty ass crusader larp getup that looks like it cost less than the Mont Python and the Holy Grail horse budget.
Random incel debates women on why they are worth less than him
Incel propaganda on an app developed by Alphabet? Surely the first time this has ever happened.
That sounds like something YouTube would promote
What’s the solution to the incel problem?
Gee, it’s almost as if this incel problem was caused by the complete atomisation of society.
Even when I agree with Andrew Wilson, he’s such an asshole when making his point that it makes me want to disagree. It’s like that with a lot of online debaters on the left too. They’re not concerned with political activism or convincing anyone, just want some zingers to make their opponent look bad. One step away from a “yo mama” battle.
He doesn’t even make points. He reframes the debate, moves the goalposts, and tortures definitions in such a way that his carefully worded “stance” is basically a tautology, while proving absolutely nothing. It is the most astonishing intellectual dishonesty I have ever seen.
He’s also a Christian nationalist fascist so fuck him twice.
Ah yes, the Charlie Kirk “we selectively found 10 dumb people to debate and then edited out any part where they come across okay” genre.
This is basically all of media now, there is no such thing as objective media of any kind anymore, everything produced is meant to pander to some group or another.
Even if we accept the passing of the internet, we have to also understand that this is how it’s going to be always, forever. Unless social attitudes broadly change, this is just what the world is going to do with recordable content from now until eternity.
Everything you see, no matter your political ideology or attitude or values, is cultivated and selected just for you to reinforce your beliefs even if that reinforcement is inaccurate.
A few of you reading this are going to frown and downvote and roll your eyes, and to this I warn you: the more you think you’re outside of this system, or the more you think you’re invulnerable to manipulation… the more vulnerable you really are.
I can’t be the only person on here that’s fully off the algorithm/surveillance grid. It’s still possible to get caught in bubbles the old-fashioned way, I guess. I try to listen to something/someone new and weird every once in a while.
I basically only use Youtube to watch let’s plays (video games) never dipped my toe into other media site to see how it tries to show that stuff. Then if I need something new to watch I’ll find newer games I may be interested in and search accordingly or watch older videos of people that I enjoyed.
I’m sure that keeps me in the bubble of entertainment vs political stuff but really I’ve rarely seen that stuff pop up. I’d probably stop all together if I only saw some of the crap I’ve heard of people’s experiences.
New can be interesting but rather just prefer a good player explaining why they’re playing like they do. Some strategy games (paradox) can be quite complicated to understand the finer points. Makes life better not hearing/watching dumbasses.
Public service announcement that if you use a VPN, a private browser and Invidious they can’t really track you. Actually just Invidious might be enough, I’ve never looked into it in detail.
I use Tor but it isn’t seamless, and you do have to go for a really low quality setting.
No you’re right, the only way to win the game is to not play.
As long as you’re staying aware of what you’re taking in, and you regularly think about how you’re thinking, you’ll be miles ahead of the broad swath of humanity.
there is no such thing as objective media of any kind anymore
All media has bias. Always has. Literally even just in the choice of what to report on, what to investigate, how and what gets written about. Best thing anyone can do is realize this, and reject the billionaires narratives and write their own shit. Make zines and hand them out! Make political shitposts on the internet! Make radical stickers and graphiti. Reject the manufactured narrative and write your own and share it to normalize it!
At first I frowned and rolled my eyes Then I read that and thought, Hmm yeah they’re probably right I’m in my own privately curated echo chamber. But, it can’t be all that bad if that private echo chamber is all about compassion and empathy, right? Sometimes living in a bubble can be a bit healthy right? I dunno, rambling.
Some of us are bombarded by right wing propaganda off the internet. When I come home, I don’t want to be bombarded by it online. You want to know what radicalized me? Being “conservative presenting” and getting to hear what republicans really think when there’s not a minority or “liberal” in the room. None of them have a single idea of their own and just revel in cruelty. That’s what they think offline and when they think they’re in “good company.” Online, they just engage in bad faith arguments and it gets tiring counting them constantly.
That’s a good point, what do we choose to feed ourselves? There’s massive industry built around people’s food diets and almost no attention paid to what our media diets are like and what they’re doing to us.
I think at the end of the day we all need to really understand how maliable our brains are and how easily we can change the way we think just because of the stuff we’re watching or listening to, and this has been an unpopular topic for a long time because it makes people worry that what they enjoy might not be good for them, but I think as long as we stay aware and keep our diet varied enough we probably will do a lot better than people who just mindlessly draw emotions from people shouting on Twitch streams all week long.
How in the world do they end up with 10 hours after editing it down?
I didn’t notice that, it is an awful lot. I wonder if it’s a series of interviews recorded over days, rather than one big meeting.
It’s also possible this is just the raw video, and then there’s a bunch of “best takedowns” compilations they actually push. Like how Charlie Kirk would do live debates with inexperienced suckers.
Being a series of interviews would make sense. That’s about an hour each. Still wild to release as an episode and not a playlist.
Yeah, but the VOLUME is the selling point here, I think. I’ve never heard of this fucking dude and even if it was t transparently bad faith content his name wouldn’t make me (a universal “me” who is open to this) click.
The “it’s ten on one and he still destroyed the females” piece is what’s supposed to lure you in.
Like how Charlie Kirk would do live debates with inexperienced suckers.
I have not watched too many of them, but I’ll never forget the guy who handed his ass to him on the subject of same sex relationships and the bible. Actually I think that’s the only one I’ve ever watched lmao. It’s funnier when those guys run into people who can actually debate.
I found a number of really good rising streamers and progressive advocates back in the day by watching Charlie Kirk debates and probably became a lot more involved with further left politics than I would have normally if it wasn’t for Charlie Kirk.
Truly, we still carry the flame. 🔥
In the end of it all, Charlie Kirk leaned left.
Yet another reason I’m dropping streaming in favor of ripping CDs and listening to locally stored files, like it’s 2009 again
Checkout Bandcamp for stuff you didn’t buy but want to and SoulSeek if you are missing some backups.
Oh, 1,000%! I use the nicotine+ front end for soulseek on Linux, and it’s wonderful
I had been using YouTube for “background noise” a lot — nothing political, just movie reviews and video essays about pop culture. In general, my YouTube diet is pretty non-toxic.
But I fell down a rabbit hole researching a band lately and have been obsessively listening to music for a couple of weeks. Mostly on my MP3 player to give my phone a break. And holy cow it feels nice not to be bombarded with curated Content all the time. I didnt even realize how consistently/constantly there was just STUFF on that, while not bad, wasn’t really contributing anything to my life.
for “background noise”
FWIW there are also radios, including public ones where content (without ads) is delivered via the Internet, usable via
cvlcormpvor even the browser (so nothing to install).I am indeed aware of the existence of radios. I dislike radio because I prefer to have some level of control over what I’m listening to. Even with algorithmic slop I can skip tracks if I want.
You can switch stations.
It seems like I have offended you in some way, and let me assure you that I don’t know how, but I am also utterly incurious as to why.
You haven’t. I’m not offended. I’m literally just sharing a solution.
FWIW I know because that’s what I have been every day for the last few months. I have been using music streaming for years, paying SoundCloud user for a while. Few months ago during my on-going transition away from surveillance capitalism I stopped more and more of commercial cloud services. One of the very last few had been music. I tried quite a few solutions and one of my fear was about music discovery. I thought if I download files then it will be hard to get new music. I looked at technical solutions, e.g. recommendation algorithm, offline and online (with API). I also noticed that my usage was split in at least 2 different listening mode : active vs passive. Active is when I specifically pick a song or an album because I crave it. Passive is when I want background sound, nearly like barely better than white noise. For active it was OK but for passive my own selection was too exciting. I then tried a great public and free French radio ( FIP.fr ) and that solved (by luck) both needs of passive listening AND music discovery. That being said I do not always love the FIP selection so sometimes I’ll switch to other stations hence why I said so. That’s it, nothing more.
Jellyfin works a treat in our household and we go to the library a lot more now.
