Who wants Iran bombed off the map, for their own reasons? Who are their rivals and enemies? Perennially, the Gulf Arab states, countries like Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

You know, Qatar. The country that just gave Donald Trump a really, really nice $400 milion-dollar plane, a gilded flying palace for his own use both during his presidency and after?

And you remember the United Arab Emirates, recently structuring a totally pointless crypto financial transaction so that $2 billion of it was stuffed into the Trump family’s otherwise worthless brand-new crypto financial firm?

And you remember the Saudis who stuffed $2 billion into the pockets of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner just as Trump’s first term in office came to a close? Enough people were alarmed about that they actually bothered to come up with an excuse for what made it OK. They said, don’t worry, Jared will never again work for the U.S. government; he’s never coming back to Washington, so we’ll never have to worry about having someone involved in U.S. policy who has also been given billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia.

Well, who was leading the negotiations on behalf of the United States with Iran before we just started this war with them? I mean, Secretary of State Marco Rubio was in St. Kitts and Nevis. It wasn’t him. It was Jared Kushner, who was recently paid billions of dollars by Iran’s chief rival, sitting alongside Trump’s tiny real estate friend, Steve Witkoff, whose son recently sought to improve his family fortunes by going to Qatar to seek money from its sovereign wealth fund.

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      Well, all the dead innocent civilians for one. Then there’s the 99.99% of the listed countries’ populations who manage to remain alive (on both sides) who will receive absolutely nothing from this. Oh, plus all the remaining nations who have already seen prices rise in a world where almost everyone is struggling to afford living anyway. Idk, I think there’s quite a lot of people who don’t benefit from this, probably somewhere around 8.3 billion or so

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        The dead civilians are bad, but it’s probably worth it if the outcome is a more competent state than Iran - their incompetence and corruption has fucked their water supply so bad that they’re outright moving their capital city due to the lack of drinking water at the old one. And no, of course the regime won’t farming rice in the desert, don’t be absurd.

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        Sure, but really what i meant. I was more referring to geopolitically, which countries are worse off. One could say Russia and the Houthis of Yemen, but not sure of anyone else.

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          The US is going to deal with sunk costs especially if there’s a ground invasion and legitimacy crisis in the world sphere and it probably won’t be able to muster enough missiles for Taiwan. I imagine anyone who relies on Iranian oil is going to suffer too

          Various military groups across Africa are probably going to lose one of their financial backers. Shia Islam may lose some of its sway, as Iran is the main actor promoting it I know most of those groups are non-state actors, but that’s a list of people I can think about. The biggest loser is Iran and it’s people right now and it remains whether the powers that be will actually be able to win the peace. Seeing who’s at the helm though?

          …I don’t see peaceful years ahead for them