Those fighting for a better future now will get old. Thankfully, so will those seemingly-immortal bastards ruining that future.
We need future generations, educated and supported and prepared to take up the mantle.
As Bruce Lee put it: “Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to overcome a difficult one.”
We need to come back around to the idea that we are here for a bigger purpose than to be comfortable and happily wither, as even if when we are victorious, someone needs to maintain the solemn responsibility to keep evil at bay, because it will try again.
We all want our children to be happy and healthy and safe. But we also must prepare them to bear the same responsibility we do.
Part of resistance and war against the principalities and powers and forces of darkness in this world, is to make sure righteous ideals live on.
you’re not wrong, but how would you feel if you were born for the purpose of fighting in a war you never chose to? kids aren’t “for” anything, they’re people.
Crazy to compare the modern day to the Great Depression or the Civil War Era and pretend you’re doing someone a disservice by raising them with love and care.
You talk about hellfire when it has literally never been better to be alive.
Of course, the Western quality of life has taken a stumble. We’re slipping back into 1980s levels of prosperity from a civilizational peak.
But the real horror of the future is knowing Americans won’t be on top. Why bring another American into the world if they’ll be no better than someone from India or South Africa or Brazil? Might as well just end it here. Die Now!
The real horror of the future is climate change, which is usually the first thing people cite when questioning if it’s a good idea to bring kids into the world at all.
You could have said this about nuclear war 40 years ago, or the Holocaust 40 years before that.
As it stands, a few online gooners swearing they’ll never make babies with their Canadian girlfriends is a moot point.
But the “I’ve made the logical decision to choose not to have children” line is largely cope in a society where people who do want kids struggle so hard
Try not to dwell in the “woe is me” narrative. Today’s younger generation has some challenges, but thinking “this is the worst any generation has ever had it by far” is total bullshit.
Because now is the best time to be alive, ever. I could take you back 100, 200, 500, 1000, or 5000 years ago and things just get shittier and shittier the further back we go yet people kept having kids.
That said, what do you think is going to happen to our capacity to produce modern safe prophylactics at scale of we let guys like RFK Jr keep running things.
Technology isn’t a given. It’s a surplus benefit of a modern society. One that can degrade over time just as easily as it can accumulate.
I mean, my sex ex courses were mostly taught by conservatives, but we were always told the pull out method alone isn’t going to get the job done. Though, I think it’s supposed to be decently effective if the woman is also tracking her ovulation carefully and you abstain during ovulation.
Pretty sure the re-enslavement of women into perpetual baby makers is part of their plan.
In most countries, the best time to be alive was the 60s-90s. Since then the world has been going downhill in everything that matters. Yes, sure, tech has evolved and all. But having the wonderful opportunity to be glued to a screen for half your life doesn’t make it the best time to be alive.
People dont stop having kids because they suddenly hate the concept. It’s in our nature to have kids. We don’t want kids anymore because society has turned so hostile that it completely overruns our instinct to have kids.
The argument could be made that kids conceived right now will be the next richest generation as we have to be rapidly approaching the breaking point with the current second gilded age
Not quite true. 20-30 years ago would be better than now. Slightly worse medical science is offset by everything else being farther up the collapse timeline.
I get our argument but I don’t think it’s accurate to overlook how terrible things have gotten in the past few decades just by taking the longview.
You’re kidding yourself, things may have seemed better 20 years ago but the economy was being bolstered by sub prime mortgage nonsense, it collapsed 2 years later and we’ve not had good times since.
How about climate change? 20 years ago there was hope. You want to introduce a kid into a world that is ending? Tell them hey, we made this world for you. You’ll fight in the water wars of 2040?
You’re saying things were better 20 years ago because there was false hope? By that logic 2020 must’ve been the best year ever because CO2 emissions actually dropped.
Also why bring a kid into this hellfire right now.
From a pragmatic point of view?
“In a time of dragons, raise dragon slayers.”
Those fighting for a better future now will get old. Thankfully, so will those seemingly-immortal bastards ruining that future.
We need future generations, educated and supported and prepared to take up the mantle.
As Bruce Lee put it: “Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to overcome a difficult one.”
We need to come back around to the idea that we are here for a bigger purpose than to be comfortable and happily wither, as even
ifwhen we are victorious, someone needs to maintain the solemn responsibility to keep evil at bay, because it will try again.We all want our children to be happy and healthy and safe. But we also must prepare them to bear the same responsibility we do. Part of resistance and war against the principalities and powers and forces of darkness in this world, is to make sure righteous ideals live on.
you’re not wrong, but how would you feel if you were born for the purpose of fighting in a war you never chose to? kids aren’t “for” anything, they’re people.
Crazy to compare the modern day to the Great Depression or the Civil War Era and pretend you’re doing someone a disservice by raising them with love and care.
You talk about hellfire when it has literally never been better to be alive.
Of course, the Western quality of life has taken a stumble. We’re slipping back into 1980s levels of prosperity from a civilizational peak.
But the real horror of the future is knowing Americans won’t be on top. Why bring another American into the world if they’ll be no better than someone from India or South Africa or Brazil? Might as well just end it here. Die Now!
I pray and wish America isn’t on top. I hope it collapses and never recovers.
That isn’t my reason for not having kids, it’s climate change and the global rise of fascism. The US is a factor, yes, but not the only factor.
Also, personally, and many will disagree, there is no real reason to have kids.
The real horror of the future is climate change, which is usually the first thing people cite when questioning if it’s a good idea to bring kids into the world at all.
You could have said this about nuclear war 40 years ago, or the Holocaust 40 years before that.
As it stands, a few online gooners swearing they’ll never make babies with their Canadian girlfriends is a moot point.
But the “I’ve made the logical decision to choose not to have children” line is largely cope in a society where people who do want kids struggle so hard
Try not to dwell in the “woe is me” narrative. Today’s younger generation has some challenges, but thinking “this is the worst any generation has ever had it by far” is total bullshit.
Because now is the best time to be alive, ever. I could take you back 100, 200, 500, 1000, or 5000 years ago and things just get shittier and shittier the further back we go yet people kept having kids.
Because they had no means to have sex without kids.
We’ve been able to pull out for a long time.
That said, what do you think is going to happen to our capacity to produce modern safe prophylactics at scale of we let guys like RFK Jr keep running things.
Technology isn’t a given. It’s a surplus benefit of a modern society. One that can degrade over time just as easily as it can accumulate.
I mean, my sex ex courses were mostly taught by conservatives, but we were always told the pull out method alone isn’t going to get the job done. Though, I think it’s supposed to be decently effective if the woman is also tracking her ovulation carefully and you abstain during ovulation.
Pretty sure the re-enslavement of women into perpetual baby makers is part of their plan.
Not just women
Are you talking about trans men? Or are you talking about other types of slavery?
Fair enough. Kids were also their retirement plan.
It’s not even the best time to be alive during my lifetime
No, it’s not. It’s not a constant progression.
In most countries, the best time to be alive was the 60s-90s. Since then the world has been going downhill in everything that matters. Yes, sure, tech has evolved and all. But having the wonderful opportunity to be glued to a screen for half your life doesn’t make it the best time to be alive.
People dont stop having kids because they suddenly hate the concept. It’s in our nature to have kids. We don’t want kids anymore because society has turned so hostile that it completely overruns our instinct to have kids.
The argument could be made that kids conceived right now will be the next richest generation as we have to be rapidly approaching the breaking point with the current second gilded age
Not quite true. 20-30 years ago would be better than now. Slightly worse medical science is offset by everything else being farther up the collapse timeline.
I get our argument but I don’t think it’s accurate to overlook how terrible things have gotten in the past few decades just by taking the longview.
Tell that to anyone currently living with AIDS.
You’re kidding yourself, things may have seemed better 20 years ago but the economy was being bolstered by sub prime mortgage nonsense, it collapsed 2 years later and we’ve not had good times since.
How about climate change? 20 years ago there was hope. You want to introduce a kid into a world that is ending? Tell them hey, we made this world for you. You’ll fight in the water wars of 2040?
Twenty years ago, we invaded a country to steal it’s oil while dismantling the nascent EV/Solar industry to protect fossil fuels
We are here today precisely because things were worse twenty years ago
Better fighting to preserve water tomorrow than bloody your hands fighting for oil yesterday
You’re saying things were better 20 years ago because there was false hope? By that logic 2020 must’ve been the best year ever because CO2 emissions actually dropped.
US life expectancy has also gone down during that time.
Okay?
My support worker just got a new client and she said they bought their house for about 30k$ decades ago and are now sitting on millions.
Who the fuck can afford a house or kids or anything other than the bare minimum.
Costs keep going up, wages stay the same or often get smaller. What. The. Fuck.
I literally had to take a paycut to get hired by my former employer again.
Things are definitely not getting better than they were
They’re clearly getting better for your employer