• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    1 day ago

    Yes, we don’t live in a perfect world because we don’t want to. We could all agree to stop fighting but we collectively decided that it would be too boring.

    Such a simplistic take. Wrong as well. Of course people care about atrocities. People cared a lot about genocide in Gaza. Did it help? No, because everyone realizes Israel is backed by the most powerful military in the world so no one suggesting idiotic solutions like invading West Bank. Kamala lost elections partially because she didn’t oppose the genocide strongly enough. Americans didn’t for Trump because they don’t care about it. They are simply stupid.

    UN tried to intervene in many different conflicts. I cited report about it. Did you read it? If you did you wouldn’t claim the convention is a scam. Countries do send troops trying to help. Most of the time it doesn’t work and things turn ugly. The treaty was signed when people believed you can send peacekeepers somewhere to stabilize the situation and protect people. Now we know it mostly doesn’t work. You don’t seem to have a better solution, you just complain we stopped doing the thing we know doesn’t work. You would still naively drop some troops in West Bank and Gaza to “protect civilians”. This is primary school level geopolitics. Fantasy land. The issues with this “solution” are so obvious I’m not even going to list them. We let genocides happen not because we don’t care but because we don’t know how to stop them. So far we only know bad solution. My comment was saying exactly that.

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      Get out of your arrogant bubble, a minority voted for Kamala despite disagreeing on her stance on Israel, and the majority of Republicans in fact support the genocide.

      Those who plugged their noses and voted for Kamala are also part of the problem, like you, they shrug and say “what can we do”?

      The most powerful military in the world didn’t defeat Gaza, can’t defeat the Houthis in Yemen, can’t defeat Hezballah, didn’t defeat the Taliban, and won’t defeat Iran either. Your life as an American (assuming you are) will only get worse as this stupid empire finally collapses, but at least the rest of the world will sigh of relief as your selfish society dies back.

      If people cared, they would revolt. They would stop working and stop the economy funding the most genocidal military. They wouldn’t schedule “protests” behind police lines to dance peacefully a few times and then go home.

      Very few are brave enough to do what it takes, and that’s not because the rest aren’t brave, it’s because they don’t give a shit. I can’t count how many times someone told me “at least we live on the side with the big guns”.

      And just to spell it out for you, because you can’t comprehend anything beyond looking for an argument, I’m not suggesting you invade my Homeland, I’m suggesting the genocide convention is bullshit designed to pacify the few that care into believing the rest of you do.

      If we don’t live in a perfect world where applying the genocide convention is realistic, why defend it? For your ego.

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        If people cared, they would revolt. They would stop working and stop the economy funding the most genocidal military.

        You sound like you’re 10. What are you doing to stop the genocide? Did you stop working already? Are you living in the streets in protests?

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          22 hours ago

          I left the country so I can physically remove my monetary contribution to it. And I continue to signal to everyone that I’m willing to revolt, but they don’t signal it back, they want to talk about celebrities and sports, because they don’t give a shit about lesser people dying.