• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    On average from 2004 to 2022, the top 1% of wealth-holders only borrowed 1-2% of their annual economic income

    What’s confusing to me is that there must be a reason they’re borrowing. When you borrow, you have to pay interest. If you’re someone who has a lot of money, why would you pay someone to lend you money? I guess the only thing that makes sense is that they think that whatever makes them rich, say Amazon shares or something, will go up at a rate that beats the interest rate they have to pay for the loan. OTOH, I guess they’re not so sure of that that they borrow in order to buy even more Amazon shares.

    The primary tax avoidance strategy for the top 1% is not to borrow, but simply not to sell appreciated assets

    I assume this means “not to sell all of their appreciated assets”, because they do spend a lot of money and it has to come from somewhere.

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      4 months ago

      The reason the rich borrow money is to take advantage of tax loopholes. It’s not about being reasonable or what ought to make sense. They are gaming the system, that’s it. So, how does it work?

      If they have investments in the stock market, then they get taxed when they sell those. So even though the investments are usually going up in value, they don’t want to sell too often. But they still need to buy things.

      So, where do they get money for living, houses, cars, travel, etc? If they get paid for working a job, their income is taxed a lot, meh. If they sell their stocks, they get taxed a little, meh. But if they get a low-interest loan, that money is not taxed.

      And you might say hey, money’s gotta be paid back some day. But remember, the goal is to find the loopholes, the places and times where either you don’t pay tax or you pay much less tax. And those loopholes are all over the place. In the end, the details are just boring. Most financial scams have just enough moving parts to look amazing, but if you take an hour to figure them out, it’s nothing exciting.

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        4 months ago

        The reason the rich borrow money is to take advantage of tax loopholes

        Ok, what tax loopholes?

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          A basic one is negative gearing + trusts + cheap loans.

          Negative gearing allows you to deduct/combine different income streams together to reduce your taxable income, and hence tax liability.

          Traditionally used by middle/upper middle class to deduct mortgage interest payments and reduce their taxable income.

          Rich(er) people combine this with trusts to distribute income/expenses among trust beneficiaries for something more tax advantageous. Usually this is someone like a spouse, child, or extended family member.

          Add on the fact that rich people get cheaper loans, which often makes it cheaper to finance day to day life with loans, and only draw down (ie realise capital gains) after shuffling around incomes/expenses for a year.

          Tax loopholes are basically legal ways to shift the timing and benefiary of income/expenses. There’s a bunch of other ones, like

          • choice of depreciation calculation
          • purchasing things on behalf of a “trust” or “company”
          • getting paid in low tax jurisdictions
          • moving money into tax advantageous retirement accounts