• Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Slippery nipples!!!

      Actual bad laws are being passed, why not focus on them instead of hyperventilating about a law. That doesn’t do what people are claiming it does.

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        yes, and i’m calling attention to one of them. blindly accepting their premise is defeat right out of the gate.

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        2 days ago

        i don’t get your question. what do software like krita has to do with anything?

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          The comment you answered to said not all software has to implement age checks; only those who actually deal with age relevant content. You said it would be a foot in the door. So… who’s foot to do what?

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            i mean in the sense this sets up the infrastructure for and normalizes invasive identification systems that could in the future be used to say, demand your id or face scanning for you to even access the internet or use computers at all, not just age restricted stuff. of course we can only speculate how they could use this for nefarious purposes.

            as in a slippery slope, might have been a better way to put it.

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              How would the current approach help?

              Its not invasive yet (no third party, no ID, no verification; its basically just another user controlled date field that is not even exposed). So it is not lowering any barrier in that regard.

              It’s also not a helpful intermediary step for harder measures, because as soon as you want a third party to do attestation, storing that on a user controlled device is just unnecessary complexity and risk of circumvention. It would be easier and safer (for those introducing it) to just let the attesting party talk to the providers directly.

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                by socially normalizing consent for it, and setting up the initial infrastructure for it to work.

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                  24 hours ago

                  Isn’t that level already socially normalized? Every second website asks me for my birthday to derive my age for as long as I can think. Many of them ask me basically every time I use them (even Steam, where I am logged in and my payment history alone should imply that I am old enough).

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                    24 hours ago

                    no, you are not forced to input any truthful information nor credit cards or id checks or facial recognition just yet, except for banks and stuff. being forced to “because of the kids!” and having it enforced at the OS level against your will changes everything.

                    most sites (that i use at least) usually have multiple payment methods with varying levels of “privacy” that doesn’t really force you to identify yourself to them.