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- thisisnotmylife@lemm.ee
- microblogmemes@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/28920677
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Yes, there should be a wall between church and state.
However, I disagree with the statement, religion absolutely belongs in schools. Students should study religion as part of cultural studies because it’s such a huge part of our social interactions. Religious students should have accommodations granted, such as Muslim prayer time (and their Friday holy day), Sikh head coverings, etc, and students should learn about why these accommodations are important.
At least in the US, we have a constitutional amendment that bans the government from making any law preventing free exercise of religion, and to me that means restricting expression within schools. It also bans the government from establishing a religion, and to me that means giving preferential treatment in schools to any particular religion.
Religion should absolutely be a part of education in our schools, and it should absolutely be separated from government. These are absolutely compatible.
When I went to school in Sheffield, UK we had a course for religion. I think it was obviously just the major ones and I got grouped into ‘non-relgious’ where we studied other religions. I’m assuming it’s probably without the piety and single-focus of the other classes, but I can only assume.
I also think there’s value in learning other religions due to their connection with history and the arts and stuff.
We briefly covered religion in K-12 education, but only when religion was directly related to world history. We touched on religions, but only for like a day, and only as an explanatory factor in other world events. We didn’t learn much of anything about those religions themselves, even as much as what day of the week they worship on, or the core tenants of their religion (though we did learn the name of the big religious texts though).
It wasn’t until I did concurrent enrollment at a local community college where I actually studied other religions. We read excerpts from the Qu’ran, Bhagavad Ghita, the Bible, and others, and learned about the connection between the various religions. That class was amazingly instructive and I think something like that should be part of the core curriculum for K-12 education (perhaps around grade 10 or 11). A little bit of understanding goes a long way to establishing tolerance and mutual respect.
A lot of people don’t actually understand their own faith, they just attend services because that’s what they’re culturally expected to do. I think a secular education about religion can go a long way in helping people understand their heritage, as well as understand their peers.
Oh but it’s ok for science to be there?! You need to check your bias. This isn’t the 1990s. There’s plenty of alternative facts now that kids can be learning about. If we keep science in schools we are just going to end up with more kids with shit jobs like engineers, researchers, and doctors.
Accurate. Officially, there’s a wall, but in practice, church and state go around the side of it constantly.
This just… isn’t true
When I was a kid we had a class called R.E.
Religious Education
The whole point of it was to inform and educate kids like us about the multitude of religious and non-religious beliefs in the world, and to allow us to form our own opinions, while also understanding different perspectives on the subject
Because learning about a religion is not the same as followimg or being made to adhere to it concepts.
You just described the whole philosophy of the educational course we were taught
Yeah I did. I don’t know what I thought I read when I replied to your comment but somehow I interpreted it entirely opposite to what you actually wrote. I’m going to just go with an all encompassing ‘I was a bit tired’ and offer my apologies as we we’re basically in agreement.
That would be good in theory, but incredibly easy to exploit.
Worked fine in the class I took at community college. We read parts of the Qu’ran, Torah, and New Testament, and I think parts of the Bagavad Ghita and some Buddhist texts. The course was fantastic, and I recommend everyone take something similar.
