• buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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    I’m a GenXer and I have literally been fed anti-communist propaganda since I was a very small child. It’s only in the last 20 years or so that I finally “woke up” and realized how absolute bullshit it all really is.

    I don’t think this is necessarily due to age. I think it’s just that circumstances have made capitalism look so bad that you realize that the propaganda was exactly that.

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      13 hours ago

      first, so theres no confusion. i am against this program and its a facist move. i want to take a detour on your comment.

      this article is more about socialism but people always confuse the two. i am a capitalist who believes in socialist programs. i believe in public health care, free public schooling (include universoty), and universal basic income. please use mybtaxes to pay for all of it.

      capitalism is about owning your own busisness, ehich i agree with and does not conflict with everything socialism. not everything needs to be privately owned but we should have the freedom to privately own a business.

      but your comment wasnt on socislism but communism. i have an honest question and not a snarky one, if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country? i genuinely want to know. communism doesnt support private property either and thats very important to me. i am also genx and for most of my kife, i have been happy with my country. my ideal president was barrack obama.

      now that this country is becoming religous facist at the highest levels, i have thought aboit leaving so again , i wasnt being snarky. if i loved communism, i wouod have left.

      sorry for the long comment, i judt hope you see i have a genuine curiosity, which is hard to communicate in a forum.

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        6 hours ago

        if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country?

        If you don’t like people with a different world view why don’t you move to israel?

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        i have an honest question and not a snarky one, if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country?

        You say this is honest, but this question has never been asked in good faith. Is the only reason you live where you live because the economic system it uses? Do you have no ties to the area besides? No family or history, or national pride? No job or property, or friends, or anything else? Do you speak every language and are accepted by and accepting of every culture, so you can just go anywhere and feel at home?

        Anyone who asks this can fuck right off. At minimum, seeing issues and wanting to fix them for other people is enough of a reason to stay and try to change things. If you can’t see why people don’t want to uproot their lives to go somewhere else, even if that somewhere else existed and was exactly what they wanted, you aren’t actually being honest.

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          ibwas being honest and said that i am thinking of moving, depending on how midterms go. i do tjink changing things for the better isbworthbstaying but I don’t think communism is for the better. its not in the identoty, which is why I asked. since i am contemplating leaving witht the facist direction this country is taking , i wanted to know their reason

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        if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country?

        First, there are no truly communist countries. Just authoritarian ones that use communism as a method of control. And now we live in an authoritarian country that uses capitalism as a method of control.

        I also didn’t say anything about “loving communism”, whatever that is supposed to mean.

        Prager U doesn’t make a distinction between socialism and communism. That’s the same propaganda we all got growing up in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. Conflating one thing with another. And that is the problem. Prager U is going to tell kids that paying taxes so that a poor person can eat is communism and taking your property away to give it to someone who doesn’t want to work for a living. They’re going to tell kids that taxing rich people will prevent them from having enough money to create jobs for good hard working Americans. And that giving things away for free will make people not want to work.

        These are the same lies we grew up with. Only with the failed state of the USSR as a “good example” of how communism(socialism) always fails. Ignoring the fact that it was deep corruption and authoritarian rule that actually destroyed the USSR.

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        capitalism is about owning your own busisness

        No, it is not. It’s about using the labor of other people to enrich yourself.

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      Also gen X & I remember always playing as the U.S.S.R. in any game that let me choose because of the absolute banger of a national anthem!

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        I went to one of the very posh UK universities where they’re split into smaller colleges, and my friend’s college would play the Soviet National anthem at the end of every big party that was hosted in the college bar. The college student union had even passed a motion mandating that.

        It was a surreal experience to see. A large chunk of people loved this tradition, but for very different reasons. There were a decent number who were straight up communists (or at least sufficiently left wing that they loved the political subversiveness of celebrating this song at such a posh university); Some people liked it ironically, for the meme (of the anthem-enjoyers, this faction were typically the poshest of the bunch); meanwhile, some people just thought the song was a banger — in my view, on this matter, these were the most based of them

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        The Civ 1 music was menacing and awesome. It reminded me of the Imperial March from The Empire Strikes Back.