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Soooo WWIII it is then?
Fun fact, that’s a 1980s era bomber being loaded and is still flying just fine. We haven’t even started with the robot dogs yet so the WW is gonna get waaay worse before…whatever is next
Fascists helping fascists. The new Axis of evil.
So they’re just loading the bombers right by the fence where journalists can see? Probably an order from Trump to stir up things up because the UK said they couldn’t launch attacks from the UK.
Those are “defensive” bombs!
What a surprise… No one could have seen this coming.
I may be naive, but I honestly didn’t think UK would allow this, when Starmer clearly stated the war on Iran is illegal. Especially not after USA has been caught in several war crimes.
Yall are naive as shit. The fucking pedophiles are against their buddy pedophiles they’ve been fucking kids with? Do you really believe that shit?
Didn’t he literally say he’d allow their use for “defensive” strikes? He’s never really been hiding it.
Every strike is a defensive strike
No it’s not.
It is in kid starvers twisted mind
The best defense is a good offense…
Wasn’t that also when he was admitting that the UK was helping do the preemptive strikes?
How is a bunker buster on a bomber defensive?
Defensive is to scramble planes to shoot down missiles. An attack is not defensive in my book.Edit: A word.
IMO defensive would involve them not leaving the USA.
Yes, that’s a good way to define it.
Yeah but that’s because you’re using logic, reasoning, and commonly understood meanings of words. In Kid Starver’s authoritarian mind none of those things matter.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth’s centre.
- 1984, George Orwell
Absolutely, the idea that “preemptive” strikes are defensive is Orwellian.
Also how does UK know what target they will hit? Will it be a kindergarten killing innocent children? Will it be a refinery constituting chemical warfare on civilians? There is no plausible reason to believe these strikes are purely defensive.The idea that preemptive strikes are defensive is Roman.
Imagine the number of attacks the world could “morally” do on USA, if preemptive strikes were considered self defense.
How many countries even allies has Trump threatened? Panama, Cuba, Denmark/Greenland, Canada. Are some that I remember for sure. Besides actually attacking Venezuela and now Iran.
All these countries could legally perform strikes against USA by the logic of the current American Government. And then they wonder why so many people hate USA.
Yeha that’s why “defensive” is in quotes, but the idea is that America is only allowed to use UK bases to bomb Iran’s offensive capabilities.
That’s still going too far IMO. USA had the option to stay out, we should not aid them in their illegal wars.
Yes but that’s not really what I’m saying. My point is that Starmer has been very clear (in his slimy lizard way) that the UK would be helping America.
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could be wrong but I think the way foreign litany bases work is that they are in the thinnest legal sense “sovereign foreign territory.” To which I mean, the activities conducted on these bases are outside the control of the country who’s land they occupy.Edit: I was wrong, amd the US are just tennants on the land which makes this a very questionable thing that they are doing.
That does not sound like a good idea. I would expect a country would want to maintain sovereignty of their own territory.
Of course embassies have something similar to what you describe, but if an embassy is breaking the law, the diplomats can be expelled.This is a common misconception (it doesn’t actually apply to embassies either, from which the myth arose). Every military base of a nation within another nation’s territory is governed by a status of forces agreement (SOF); usually a large general SOF for all locations in the territory and also a narrower SOF that applies to that site specifically.
Thank you for the correction! That makes what they’re doing against the SOF rules/law, then?
That really depends tbh.
These munitions could be just being moved from one site to another, not destined for a site supplying the Iranian theater. They could be being sent for decommissioning. They could be loaded just for regular evaluation, loaded test flights. They could be going to the Iranian theater, but the UK government gave special exception for this case. Or it could be what we all thought right when we saw the headline and these are going directly ti theater to be used on Iranian targets.
Without more information, it’s impossible to know. Brits should be demanding more information for sure; I just told my partner and she is emailing her MP right now about this.
Nnnnope. They are RAF bases, with a nominal RAF CO. The USAF are tenants.
Starmer the flim flam man. He stands for nothing and will go with anything, he has no morals.
Probably in the Epstein files. (The UK leaders).
I feel like we’re slowly discovering that the UK is still in fact run by Tony Blair.
Guys, I’m starting to think that the US is dropping bombs somewhere
Like a country that is similar to A Flock of Seagulls song?
Is this because of AUKUS?
No it’s because Donald Trump rapes children and hopes you will forget if he switches to bombing children.
Imagine if all US miitary assets were targeted, globally
Nobody could do this.
I don’t understand the downvotes, you are absolutely correct. No one nation would be capable of targeting every US military base in other countries.
It’s not about targeting the whole thing it’s about targeting links in the chain. If you took down 1-2 links in the chain the frontlines are impacted.
Iran is literally bombing US military bases. Like, right now.
I get you think America is the greatest country in the world, but your people are literally being bombed as we speak.
Dozens of countries host US military bases. While currently unlikely, the individual host nations could absolutely forcefully overtake or otherwise expel the bases within their borders while the US flounders about in Iran.
The US has just shown it can’t protect it’s bases, and their presence only invites more conflict.
True and that would deal with a lot of infantry and logistical folks, but spin up a fist of retribution that would literally turn cities to rubble and fuck up naval traffic forever
That’s a Lancer in the article, the B1 was first flown in 1986 and is still fully capable of dropping literal tons of explosives anywhere on the globe within hours. We’re still using Cold War tech that works but think about how much DARPA have built since then…the only thing that can kill the US military is the US military, there’s just gonna be a lot of collateral damage
These bombers can only fly when the target nation has depleted air defence. Take Iran for example, the only reason the US government was able to drop bombs at Isfahan, Natanz and Fordow in June, 2025 was because the Israelis has damaged the Iranian air defence network. If those systems were still intact, those bombers would become a very expensive firework display, even more colorful than the ones we see during festivals.
All I am saying is every nation has a right to defend themselves, and if you can not, you will be bombed to smithereens. The winners get to tell the rest of the world your story…like Japan and Germany.
Those must be them defensive bombs that only fall on people who are attacking you.
Another Starmer lie?
Herr Schtarmer
The US government can not be trusted. The UK government can not be trusted. The Iranian government can not be trusted. The Israeli government can not be trusted.
I think I am starting to see a pattern.
Is there any government that can be trusted? I feel like no matter what system or ideology is used, a society is always going to end up with a weird ruling class that’s corrupt, power hungry, and is fond of using authoritarian tactics.
if i was president you can trust me 👍👍👍👍 lol
Mother anarchy loves her children
I don’t know Spain looks like they have a halfway decent one
Isn’t that curve the basic nature of capitalism, since the beginning of money and commerce that has been discussed since ancient Greek.
No war but a class war.
No current country deserves humanity, perhaps some future government will.
Countries whose names start with vowels can’t be trusted?
Austrians right about now
Heck, Australians too
And maybe the aliens idk
Given they banned Palestine action/slogans (18-year old girl jailed for 2 years for wearing a shirt saying “from the river to the sea”).
Yeah, our government’s tonguing the Netanyahu-owned Orange Anus, too.
So UK bases are just a valid military targets now lol
I would assume anything the epstein empire (america/israel) have bombed are now legitimate targets in any country that loads bombs onto their planes. This would suggest junior schools, hospitals, shopping malls all have targets on them and there’s nothing you can do about it. americans voted for WWIII. congrats.
Iran considers UK military bases to be valid targets anyway.
If you’re Iranian. So are all your neighbors, including hotels, and any ship in nearby waters.
These must be the defensive bombs they keep talking about.
Poking around an ADSB tracking site will very quickly illustrate the flight path of the logistics chain to the middle east, as well as the European bases passed through along the way.
