• TimmyDeanSausage @lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You can live in a densely populated city and still need to travel long distances regularly though… Especially if you’re poor.

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      2 days ago

      But the key is that that isn’t a legitimate need because driving is the only reasonable way to solve the problem; it’s an illegitimate need caused by a failure of politicians to allow correct city planning and infrastructure.

      • TimmyDeanSausage @lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        I work in many different locations. Some of them remote. I often bring large equipment with me. More than that, my work days tend to be anywhere from 10 hours to 16 hours long, typically with a lot of manual labor included. Some of my commutes can be 2 hours one way. I’ve worked plenty of those 16 hour days with 4 hours of driving added on top. The thought of riding a bike or running the public transit gauntlet (which, will typically double or quadruple the commute times in my area) is repulsive.

        I think you’re massively over-simplifying this issue.

        • grue@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          Guess what: you’re that special snowflake who has a legitimate need to drive. The vast majority of people are not like you.

          Just like pearl-clutching about rural people, bringing up arguments like yours to try to make excuses for why the majority “have to” drive is bad-faith whataboutism.

          • TimmyDeanSausage @lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            Providing counter-arguments you clearly haven’t considered is not a bad-faith argument. Lobbing insults and strawman arguments (I never made the case that the majority of people have to drive) is arguing in bad faith.