• Riverside@reddthat.com
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    1 day ago

    Everything you consume is propaganda and has an agenda, you just see this as propaganda because it counters the propaganda that’s already internalized and invisible to you

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        Literally anything that causes an idea to spread is propaganda. Advertising, calls for help, gossip, commentary, analysis, storytelling, hell public art or theater or even just public conflict. That’s what the word means, the means of idea propagation.

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        20 hours ago

        Again, there is no cultural artifact that does not serve a propaganda purpose or espouse a worldview

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            It’s not propaganda as we’ve been made to understand it in the west, because that’s a meaningless vibes based category

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              Hmm, maybe I misunderstood you.

              If all cultural artifacts serve a propaganda purpose, but this post is not propaganda, does that mean that this post is not a cultural artifact?

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        19 hours ago

        Propaganda is just messaging, there’s nothing inherently evil about it. The question is what message is being propagated.

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        23 hours ago

        China executes pedophiles and America elects them and worships at their churches. It’s really not a complicated comparison. There is no gotcha here

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          10 hours ago

          Maybe both countries should stop executing people given that a non-negligible number of them are entirely innocent. Maybe capital punishment should have been abandoned long before the 21st Century and any country that continues it be a pariah state.

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          11 hours ago

          Fair, though I’m not sure it’s as simple as that. I’m no fan of the US, but what do you think is the biggest issue plaguing China right now from a humanist perspective?

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            1. Poverty (which they’re alleviating), and the trappings of poverty (like poor labor conditions, corruption, and abuse).
            2. Environmental degradation (which they are alleviating) and all the trappings that come with it (like greater impact on the poor, bad health outcomes, corruption).
            3. Threats from state actors (which they are alleviating) and the trappings that come it (like selective repression of dissent, organizing, and collaboration, surveillance and chilling effects, etc)