• Soup@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    I’m not going to say that the wealthy don’t benefit from immigration but we can see that the bigger issue is how laissez-faire these centrist and conservative governments(functionally the same for all it really matters) are when it comes to protecting our rights. The minimum wage comstantly dragging behind, shipping our money out of the country(foreign aid and stuff is fine, though), and refusing to tax the wealthy so that the tax burden is on the working class are far bigger issues that can all be address without a need to physically build up stock of things like housing, which we could have a lot more of very quickly if we built more sensibly.

    I work in the architectural field and obviously have a fire for good urban planning and can comfortably say that this isn’t an improvement that needs to be measured in decades if we actually tried at all. It would also be a huge boon for jobs, and with better workers’ rights we could see a lot more people willing to do said jobs, too. I’m having a hard time at the moment and one thing keeping me out of looking towards a trade is how poorly those fields are often treated(the pay isn’t as good as it looks, either, fyi).

    And going off that point, the wage pressure thing is tricky because it doesn’t matter if their are a trillion people in the country if only ten of them can operate a crane or do surgery. Those ten people would still have the ability to apply immense pressure, right? The immigrants we bring come with a huge variety of skills and often need to take equivalency courses so much of the pressure they apply in their first few years is on manual labour jobs and the like, even if they come with a bunch of other skills.

    Everything is highly nuanced, but the one certain thing is that our Liberal/Conservative government see-saw has not been serving us on the simple things like a wealth tax and a real minimum wage increase. Our local governments are also screwing renters and commuters(zoning and transport, namely). We moan about not being able to afford things and then shoot ourselves in both feet when presented with opportunities to actually address those issues directly and man, honestly, I’m getting so tired of it.

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      16 days ago

      Ah you’re the type that wants a government run grocery stores and such. Things are too expensive so we need more government is your view summarized.

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        16 days ago

        Yea, I am the type that wants evidence based solutions to our problems and who doesn’t want to keep doing the same tired bullshit that has never worked.

        Look, I was trying to have a conversation, and you were doing so well there, but if you just want to be racist about it while on your knees for the people who are robbing you in broad daylight with smiles on their faces then say it with your whole fucking chest or shut your cowardly mouth.

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          16 days ago

          Ya fair enough, that is just a pretty extreme view, and I dont have enough conviction in my own knowledge to debate such an overhaul.