Net upgrade size should be in the negatives
5 minutes?
How does one go so long between updates?
That’s my secret; I’m always updating.
Between what?
Shit! Thanks! I forgot!
Oh fuck I havent used my terminal buddy in two weeks and its arch.
Thanks for reminding me!
> yay
with rolling release comes rolling responsibility
I heard you like updates. Have you tried Gentoo yet?
Just install pamac, it can update every time you shut down. I don’t mind it updating every day if I don’t have to babysit it.
I will take a look at this, thanks
I’d also recommend timeshift for recovery from bad updates, if you aren’t already.
A related thing I’ve done is I’ve made it so pacman can’t run outside of Tmux. At least not in that shell profile. One of the reasons is I got so fed up with Ubuntu server that I decided I’d experiment with a few servers being Arch. Some might consider that crazy but it’s what experiments are for.
I can’t afford to have an ssh disconnect break a system and forcing Tmux prevents me from doing something lazy. Side benefit… it also means it’s easier to not babysit it.
There should be a law against OS updates more frequent than once a month
I mean, just use any stable distro and you can live that life. Arch is good for its own reasons precisely because it’s this way.
Linux guy whipping out the “Actually, it’s a feature not a bug” line is very funny.
Funny because it’s true? If you want updates all the time, install Arch. If you want as few updates as possible, pick some LTS distro.
You like that? I’m a fan of it.
When the update takes 15 minutes instead of 2 hours and you have the option to pre-download it whenever you feel like, updating once a week is suddenly not a problem.
Yeah I mean, this is the benefit of the fragmentation. If you don’t want to update all the time, you just use a different distro. I know I do, I’ve run Linux for 21 years now and never once run Arch because I don’t want what it does, but we’re still on the same team, and the things they do benefit me nonetheless. There are drawbacks to the fragmentation, but this is one of the benefits.
As a rescent convert coming from Ubuntu to cachy os, the update cadence of an arch ibased distro, is something to get used to. It is also one of the main reasons behind experimenting with it. I am.using ubutntu and debian for work related workloads, where stabiloty is more important than having.the latest software. For personal use and playing around, cachy has been awesome. You control your own cadence.with updates. I am doing weekly at the moment, or whenever I need some new piece of software.
Well… it is a feature… we are talking about Arch here, a bleeding edge distro meant to be continuously updated.
Want to update once every couple of decades? Go pick something stable like Debian (also Linux BTW).
Does it take effort to be this ignorant, or were you born like this?
No, thank you very much, I like my CVEs and bugs being fixed as soon as possible.
What if your favourite game 1 receives an update and your favourite game 2 gets one a couple of days later. Do you wait the month to play game 2?
If I haven’t beaten game one, it’ll be more than a month.
But synchronizing patch releases so you’re not bombarded with notifications would be nice, yes.
Ah yes, reading my monthly blob of my 900 and still growing games library updates, marvelous. Might need a couple of days to just get halfway through.
And fuck the indie games that relies on direct user feedback by the way, those pesky weekly updates! Stop trying making quality games, folks, someone here is bothered by a notification.
Oh no the lastest update made the game crash on launch? Well, wait for next month patch then, we wouldn’t dare pushing an update notification, that would be horrendous!
This is not applicable to arch tho
Each package is updated independently, you pull updates whenever you feel like it, be that monthly or every five minutes
Well… with Arch it’s unsafe to install new software to a system that isn’t up to date at least semi-recently. But you really only need to update as often as you install new things. Or more often if you want to.
That’ll be three gigs to download hut we will give you 200 megs of free space back, as far as what’s changed? We’ve further optimized the system for you and you can enjoy using it as before ie more better but nothing you’ll notice.
I understand why but updates that do nothing but keep you up to date are annoying for the user.
I’d you do every day updates, you are a sucker!
This is not even a meme. I updated my laptop yesterday and here I am doing yet another upgrade with 400mb+ dl size.
I was trawling through Octopi and saw an update notifier. Thought it was neat. Now I won’t have to update if there’s no updates, I thought.
I removed it after a day. I could have set it to only look once a day, but realised that if I just update as part of what I do before I shutdown then I basically got the same effect, without being actually notified of anything. I don’t think there’s ever been a time where I ran an update and it said “nah nothing to do 👍”
I literally completed an update the other day and by the time it was done there were new updates. The update notification is useless, lol.
✊ The struggle is real
This is all fine as long as you are not on a throttled connection. I read an blog post a couple of years ago in which the author switched from Arch to Debian for a longer offgrid vacation for this exact reason.
Just don’t update
Updating your software is the most important action one can take for cyber security, so no. That is not an option.
Also the update can fail if you wait too long (mostly GPG keys, which can be fixed)
Calm down. All updates are not security updates. People can read change logs before deciding to update.
I mean you’ll be fine off grid for a couple months
Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, archlinux?
Does it come with literature?
It comes with frequent failures to boot, and every update is a russian roulette that might just force you to spend the next few hours figuring out what the fuck broke down this time.
I don’t know what distro y’all are on, but I’ve been a beginner on an Arch based distro for a couple of years and I haven’t had a major issue that wasn’t fixed by an update and reboot.
No, just a wiki
Debian does! :3
mfw arch users are more likely to be virgins than monks.
Depends. How many virigns in heaven do I get?
Zero, but you’ll love the uniform
I did some research. Is this an apt representation of what I can expect? If it is, I’m in!
That’s it exactly. Welcome to the club.
Only one, and it’s you.
