Jordan Lund is NOT a good human being.

Right, the Gaza Genocide isn’t US Politics… Those aren’t US made bombs being dropped with US politicians cheering them on and US diplomatic support and denial allowing the Genocide to continue. Nothing could be more salient to US politics than the ways in which the Palestinian Genocide drove us to war.

What a joke.

I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.

For the record the first article about corporate complicity in the Palestinian Genocide includes references to many major US corporations, thus making it drirectly relevant to US politics at an immediate level.

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42581206

https://www.alai.info/en/corporate-participation-and-complicity-in-the-genocide-against-the-palestinian/

The second article about US media’s complicity in coverage over the Palestinian Genocide… do I need to actually explain how that is related to US politics? Of course it is?

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579919

https://dawnmena.org/destroying-al-shifa-hospital-robin-andersens-the-complicity-lens-us-media-coverage-of-israels-genocide-in-gaza/

The third article is relevant because the US and Israel have been intimately interwoven in their escalation of Genocide and breaking of international norms, if a Genocide begins in Lebanon it will be a DIRECT continuation of US politics applied first in Israel and next in Lebanon. I mean what the hell we are fighting a war RIGHT NOW and this is the biggest escalation possible IN THAT WAR. How is that NOT related to US politics???

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579757

https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon

The fourth article about there being no ceasefire in Gaza, I don’t even know how to go about this one, om, it is politics involving primarily the US here? The US is the single most relevant political actor capable of changing this situation? How is this not US politics? Where can you cleanly draw a line here?

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630002

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza

The US is directly and intimately complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, you cannot in good conscience nor with logical consistency separate US politics cleanly from this issue, if you wanted that to be possible you should have spoken up louder against the Genocide before, now it is too late to fumble with broken stilted arguments like this. The Palestinian Genocide is US Politics, period, end of story.

Can we finally stop pretending that what we have been witnessing in Gaza over the past 22 months is a “war,” a “conflict,” or even a “humanitarian crisis”? Many of the world’s leading human rights and humanitarian groups – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Doctors Without Borders – agreed months ago that what is being livestreamed to our phones on a daily basis is indeed a genocide.

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Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate are even more gung-ho. Forget complicity; Congress is filled with GOP cheerleaders for genocide, from Senators Tom “bounce the rubble in Gaza” Cotton to Lindsey “level the place” Graham. The newest member of the House, Randy Fine, a Republican representative of Florida, has called for the nuking of Gaza and said just days ago that Palestinians in Gaza should “starve away” until the Israeli hostages are all released. (A reminder that incitement to genocide is also a crime under Article III of the Genocide convention.)

But we cannot let Democrats off the hook either. The first 16 months of this mass slaughter unfolded on a Democratic president’s watch. From the get-go, Joe Biden gave Netanyahu and his cabinet of génocidaires everything they needed – 2,000-lb bombs to drop on refugee camps filled with Palestinian children? Check. UN security council vetoes to prevent the passage of resolutions calling for a permanent ceasefire? Check. The burial of internal US government reports warning of war crimes and famine in Gaza? Check.

It wasn’t just Biden. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress spent much of 2024 casting vote after vote to keep arming, funding and whitewashing the mass killing of Palestinian civilians. Even now, in the summer of 2025, seven high-profile Democratic senators were happy to take a smiling photo with Netanyahu, including the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who claims talk of genocide is antisemitic and says his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel”.

  • Mehdi Hasan

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/the-us-complicit-genocide-israel-gaza

  • thethrilloftime69@feddit.onlineEnglish
    121·
    16 days ago

    This is such a weird distinction. Everything Israel does is with the help of US policy. Like I don’t understand why it’s not allowed by the communities rules.

    • jordanlund@lemmy.world
      220·
      16 days ago

      What Israel is doing are specific actions taken by Israel. They are not being directed by US policy or US Politicians. The US provides funding for Israeli defense which Israel immediately misappropriates for the genocide.

      Again, Israeli war crimes, not US war crimes.

      There is no US policy stating “Gaza? Pfffft… kill 'em all.”

      • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.comMEnglish
        9·
        16 days ago

        There is no US policy stating “Gaza? Pfffft… kill 'em all.”

        But that is exactly what US policy is, in effect. By refusing to hold Israel accountable, by continuing to supply arms and political cover, and by joining hands with Israel to attack Iran, the US government (both parties) has repeatedly endorsed, aided and abetted the genocidal government of Israel. The stain of that genocide can’t be washed away so easily, simply by you naively claiming US politicians thought Israel would use such support purely for self defence. Nobody is buying the obvious bullshit you are selling. US politicians want Israel to be a US stronghold in the region, no matter what. The whole world thinks the US is culpable, because we have eyes and ears.

        • jordanlund@lemmy.world
          14·
          16 days ago

          “In effect” but not explicitly stated. Unless you can point to it actually being US Policy, it doesn’t belong in a community dedicated to US policy.

          Again, this is why separate communities exist and have their own rules. You don’t go into the carnivore community going on about how “hey, beefsteak tomatoes are effectively the same thing! It’s in the name!”

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
      8·
      16 days ago

      Exactly, it isn’t even some weird conspiracy either, empires have had vassal states since as long as empires have existed, why are we pretending now that vassal states don’t exist as a concept because the subject is the US and Israel?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzerainty

      Suzerainty differs from sovereignty in that the dominant power does not exercise centralized governance over the vassals, allowing tributary states to be technically self-ruling but enjoy only limited independence. Although the situation has existed in a number of historical empires, it is considered difficult to reconcile with 20th- or 21st-century concepts of international law, in which sovereignty is a binary concept, which either exists or does not. In contrast, suzerainty is non-binary and lies on a continuum. While a sovereign state can agree by treaty to become a protectorate of a stronger power, modern international law does not recognise any way of making this relationship compulsory on the weaker power. Suzerainty is a practical, de facto situation, rather than a legal, de jure one.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassal_state

      It is remarkable arguing against someone where all it takes is literally two wikipedia articles about basic political concepts to demolish their moderation policy for the largest Political community on a network.