“We are raising funds to support a critical legal defense in the fight against unchecked corporate power and a system that continues to favor the few over everyone else. This case isn’t just about one individual—it’s about challenging a status quo that protects the interest of the powerful at the expense of justice and fairness,” read one of the fundraising pages that was quickly removed by GoFundMe.

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    During the Great Depression, people were so angry at banks that they rooted for bank robbers. Things are so bad now that we’re just straight up rooting for cold-blooded executions. Censoring people’s online activities won’t make this anger go away. The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don’t want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

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          Nah they deserve to live, as a treaf. Plus I want to see what happens to person when you pour lemon juice into their open chest cavity while theyre awake.

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        “In fear” are the key words here.

        If I stole hundreds of dollars from people in my town and my name was public information, I’d be scared shitless.

        Billionaires steal millions and not just in dollars. The way I see it, Luigi took out a serial killer, not a businessman.

        I would like to remind everyone that while I do wish the worst for billionaires, I do not legally condone violence of any kind. I will however smile if I hear about bad things happening to bad people.

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      Reddit just banned me for saying I support Luigi in his monster slaying quest and hope there’s more heroes out there.

      Say, what’s the Lemmy policy on being real? I don’t really care. I’ll say it in person as well as any online platform, and if I’m banned from them all then I’ll just read books and shit.

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        It depends on the instance. I just left Lemmy.World because of their euro- centric pro-censorship stance of educating people on the existence and explanation of jury nullification.

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          Attention all Luigi supporters!

          Lemmy.world’s policy is to remove comments and posts that advocate for violence. And imprisonment is a violent act. If you see a post on lemmy.world advocating for Luigi’s imprisonment, report it and leave a comment explaining how it advocates for violence.

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          That’s what I’m on since I’m not really too well read on Lemmy yet and it was the most popular. Any suggestions for a good instance that can be readily joined where we have some semblance of freedom of speech? I mean, I’m far from a terribly hateful person but I’m not going to pretend I’m upset when a bad person dies, and I also like discussing internet piracy and such. I just wish for Reddit circa 2008. Heh.

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            I‘m a piracy fan and I‘m on dbzer0 instance as it‘s an offshoot of r/piracy. I barely post and lurk more, so I don‘t really know how they‘d moderate on the Luigi situation. The owner seems to be an anarchist and historically anarchist action wasn‘t all peaceful, most anarchists seem to support a “diversity of tactics” one of which is violence. Which makes sense to me, it’s like self defense cause what Americans are dealing with here is structural violence and what looks like zero hope for change.

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              Violence is very unfortunately the only way the world ever changes substantially. We deify our own nations’ founders as legendary revolutionaries when they used violence as their primary tool. We understand why the French had their revolution. We root for the anti-heroes in films. But then I’m supposed to be silent when I see somebody finally taking action in a meaningful way against some greedy sociopathic pig? I’m supposed to be okay with platforms silencing me and telling me I’m wrong for thinking this way after decades of being beaten down by these types?

              Well, I’m not upset that CEO is dead. I like it. I hope somebody guns down another every week. Gives me a rock hard justice boner. And if speaking like this gets me banned from online social media then maybe it’s for the best. Spend way too much time on it anyways. Haha.

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            IMO – you can’t go wrong picking something obscure, or something you just llthink sounds cool, or anything for whatever reason. If it doesn’t work out, switching isn’t a big deal, unless you plan on cultivating a following. I’m ok with nuking my profiles and starting fresh. I chose my instance because I thought the name sounded cool. I haven’t been disappointed. I still regularly hear from a bunch of instances .world, .ml, dbzero, or whatever.

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          Telling people that jury nullification exists isn’t a problem, I’ve done that ad nauseam on .world. The problem is connecting it to calls for violence, as a way of encouraging people to cross that line.

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        Pretty sure it’s a by-server or by-community basis, but I’ve seen nothing but support for him on here

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          There are various actors trying to least descalate the support and others who painted him as murder esp starting today.

          They are mirroring fake news arguments to split the support. Their play here depends on their ability to do so.

          Fever has died down too.

          He is already cooked from their perspective but I still don’t buy he was in fact the guy who pulled the trigger

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            I’ve seen some people try to say he was a Far-Right loon who had a shrine to the messiah himself, Jordan Peterson.

            I saw a laughably bad article on MSN that basically said “Won’t someone think of the billionaires and ban video games before someone kills again? This guy played Among Us ya know!”

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                Lol, I had a website I must use to do some adult bullshit today, and it would not work with my normal browser security policies. So I used a completely blank browser with no privacy settings just to do this one thing. I opened up a basic chrome window and was greeted with a bunch of ads. The one at the top was apparently trying to make Husk more relatable to the pheasants.

                Elon Musk’s Ex-Wife Says He Forgot To Buy Her A Christmas Gift - But When He Realized, He Walked Barefoot In A Snowstorm To Find Flowers

                Benzinga

                This is how I imagine most people engage with MSN style garbage.

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          Is it? I am indeed happy that CEO died. He deserved it. Fuck him.

          Is Lemmy basically just Reddit Junior then? No real improvements to freedom of speech? More moderators being over zealous and deleting posts and banning people left and right and controlling the narrative? I don’t really know what this place is all about I guess. I’m not like super hateful or anything but I’m not going to pretend I’m on the side of monsters who ruin the world for profit. I fit in beautifully on Reddit circa 2008.

          Looks like TikTok is the only place you can actually be a real mother fucker and my country is shutting that down soon. What a bummer.

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            I have genuinely started to dislike the internet as a whole in the last couple of years, where everyone is trying to be "familiar-friendly " and “corporate-friendly” like wtf? Even I’ve got enough shadow bans on me(especially on the ones by google) that I’ve almost got a strange gut reaction when using a swear word, to stop and consider if it’s going to get me banned. But atleast I’d be able to say what I want. Even then, I’m just so much more happy that I can type out long-ass 10 page rants and it would not be considered a spam, just because of being long on reddit and eternity. Also, fuck lemmy world mods for censorship.

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            Lemmy is just the software that runs on various instances (servers) that all talk together.

            I like to think Lemmy is the multiverse version of Reddit. Don’t like your instance and admins? Join a new instance.

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              Thank you. I was told by another user to try an anarchist instance. It’s not like I’m some hate-monger or even at all abrasive. I’d just like to see the kind of freedom we had on Reddit in 2008 where the community is allowed to moderate itself outside of some obvious exceptions. We didn’t know how good we had it then. Peak days of online discussion.

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              Yup, here’s hoping. With a little luck, some would-be mass shooters will also hopefully reconsider their objectives after seeing how much love Luigi is getting and at least go out doing something positive for society instead of shooting innocent people. School shootings are so 1998 and real virgin behavior.

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                  Yes, I 100% know why I was banned by a corporate website that abandoned the policy of free speech they were founded on years ago. I don’t care. I’m done playing nice and thinking and saying what I’m “supposed to.” Fuck these people and all who lick their boots.

                  My question is what is Lemmy about? Can I say I’m glad that CEO got shot and I hope it becomes a new positive trend in the world here? Cause that’s my honest take, and it’s been so refreshing to see that it’s the predominant take among friends, family, and coworkers in the real world as well. We think Luigi is just great.

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      Like that’s ever gonna happen. There are and will always be boot lickers that’ll do anything for money.

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      if billionaires don’t want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

      OR…they raise premiums to pay for more security.

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        I mean, I’m sure they will, but I doubt it will make a difference. Trump almost got it twice this summer. He’s only alive because he was incredibly lucky the first time, and the second time, the shooter was incompetent. Meanwhile, in the last 25 years, schools have added metal detectors, more police, active shooter drills, and bullet-proof walls, but it’s only amounted to security theater. I’m sure there will never be another assassin who escapes and leads police on a 5-day manhunt, but there are too many guns in America to prevent a guy with a death wish from gunning down a CEO or billionaire.

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        More like how FDR used the banks’ need for government assistance to force regulation on them through the 1933 Banking Act and the Glass-Steagall Act.

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            Yes. A decade after it was repealed, we had the largest financial collapse since it was enacted, and now we’re dealing with higher income inequality than we had during the Gilded Age. What part of this is meant to invalidate my point?

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              I’m refuting the idea that fanservice leads to lasting institutional change.

              The fact that we’re in the shitter because the change didn’t stick kinda proves my point.

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                Well, A) the point isn’t that, “fan service,” created this change. It’s that people’s willingness to side with outlaws over institutions is a good barometer of public anger, and based on the United Healthcare killing, people are fucking pissed. B) FDR passed banking reform and social welfare programs that created decades of economic stability and only lost their efficacy after half a century of conservative attacks chipped away at them. I’m not sure why you think a historical example of the sort of fundamental, radical change in talking about doesn’t count just because the Baby Boomers fucked it all up.

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            Yes, proof that reforming capitalism is wasted effort. You can only delay end stage capitalism reforms, not prevent it.