You’re getting downvoted but I agree, to an extent. If it’s an RPG telling a grand story, and not an individual piece dedicated to a unique individual, then yes.
Every game feels a bit broad. Even if just for the sake of development, I’m okay with story-focused games having pre-built characters. Especially if we’re not actually meant to like or agree with the character we’re playing as, such as Martin Walker in Spec-Ops: The Line.
Give me one good reason I shouldn’t be able to have a customizable PC in Tetris.
Seriously: I think narratives in games should be based on player choice. To me, that’s the difference between a game and a book or movie. To choose your own path instead of passively following one.
But clearly I am a minority here. Some of the biggest games are linear set-piece things with no choice in the narrative structure. Even open-world games tend to be linear narratively.
To use your example of Spec Ops: The Line: there is significant player choice that the main dude did not have to be a rigid character. They could have been as customizable as V from Cyberpunk 2077, and the effect would still land.
So did I, but I mean, given the current game development climate, Ciri was an extremely predictable pick.
Not only is Ciri a woman, which modern games seem to be making super majority of main protagonists these days, but she also has market familiarity. Her character is recognizable and therefore has a builtin audience, where a new character does not.
I think that wanting equality over men/women % of MC is not something you would want to focus on I would rather have a quality story and universe whatever of the gender of the MC.
( I will clarify my point , I am an human therefore I am for gender equality obviously but I don’t think that this metric is the most interesting )
I completely agree that the quality of the story is kinda the whole point, but I am tired of seeing comments like the one RightHand made; complaining that she is a woman just because she is a woman.
I mean, I agree. But, based on that argument, it’s totally fine if 100% of pre-created MCs are women then, since it’s only the story and universe that are important (and I would be 100% a-ok with that happening).
Besides, they’ve already established some of her signature abilities and had people play as her in some of the previous game, kicking the familiarity up an extra notch.
Yep. Ciri isnt the worst choice in the world, I just was hoping I could have played as my own character instead. It will be interesting to see what they do with the story.
Yeah, I’d have preferred making my own character too but, failing that, a great character that’s already established in the series and has been a lot of fun playing as so far ain’t bad either!
I really hope they don’t stick with Ciri gameplay from TW3, I never liked when I was forced to play as Ciri, her abilities was less fun than Geralt signs.
Judging by the video, she’ll be behaving more like a witcher, with the two swords, the signs, and the potion quaffing. If they hold to that and also let her keep her “short teleport” move from TW3, I’m looking forward to it 🙂
If they changed the double dodge = roll to double dodge = short teleport, but not as crazy as in TW3 that would be cool, they could also make the whole gameplay more agile than TW3, seems like a good fit for Ciri.
I did. The games already completely shit on the ciri book lore. I was hoping for a fresh slate with new characters, perhaps during a different time period entirely.
How so? One of the endings literally has geralt gift a witcher sword to Ciri. The only thing I’m confused about is how she now seems to have the witcher mutations
One of the early Witcher books mentioned that Ciri was given some witcher drugs while she was training at Kaer Morhen, but didn’t undergo the trial of the grasses at Triss’ request.
It makes perfect sense with two of the three endings, and could even work with the third depending on how much CDPR wants to explain the cosmology behind the white frost.
It’s almost definitely a break with the series in that you likely won’t be able to import your save file, which always was a core feature of the series. There are also other lore details that don’t add up here, which have already been explained. There could’ve been many ways to progress the story but I don’t see how that is possible here. It’s most likely a soft reboot.
Some games do allow you to import saves from older games that have swapped the MC. They just take the choices you made in the story arc and use that to create conditions for the world you’re now in. But it’s a rare occasion from what I know.
It could work the same way as the three origin stories in CP77: each ending from The Witcher 3 leading to a separate intro story with a time skip before the main game begins.
I guess that could be possible though I doubt it. The 3 origin stories in Cyberpunk were extremely shallow and didn’t add anything to the story. I don’t see why they would go for it again when it didn’t work out last time.
As if anyone expected to play as any other character than Ciri.
I hoped for a witcher (whichever gender) from one of the other schools, tbh
I kind of hoped for a custom character like V
I think every game should have a customizable player character.
You’re getting downvoted but I agree, to an extent. If it’s an RPG telling a grand story, and not an individual piece dedicated to a unique individual, then yes.
Every game feels a bit broad. Even if just for the sake of development, I’m okay with story-focused games having pre-built characters. Especially if we’re not actually meant to like or agree with the character we’re playing as, such as Martin Walker in Spec-Ops: The Line.
Give me one good reason I shouldn’t be able to have a customizable PC in Tetris.
Seriously: I think narratives in games should be based on player choice. To me, that’s the difference between a game and a book or movie. To choose your own path instead of passively following one.
But clearly I am a minority here. Some of the biggest games are linear set-piece things with no choice in the narrative structure. Even open-world games tend to be linear narratively.
To use your example of Spec Ops: The Line: there is significant player choice that the main dude did not have to be a rigid character. They could have been as customizable as V from Cyberpunk 2077, and the effect would still land.
Same. Dunno why the downvotes.
I didn’t downvote but I disagree. It is nice to be able to roleplay your own character but I also like having well written established characters
They don’t have to be mutually exclusive. Mass Effect worked.
If we’re following rediquette, (if such a thing still exists or can even be applied to Lemmy) downvotes shouldn’t be used on things you disagree with.
Over time the concept of the downvote lost its meaning, even on Reddit (and that happened a while ago).
Sadly most people just downvote when they don’t like what you’ve said, not if it’s factually incorrect or misinformation etc.
So did I, but I mean, given the current game development climate, Ciri was an extremely predictable pick.
Not only is Ciri a woman, which modern games seem to be making super majority of main protagonists these days, but she also has market familiarity. Her character is recognizable and therefore has a builtin audience, where a new character does not.
If women make up around 50% of the people on earth, shouldn’t they make up around 50% of the main characters?
I think that wanting equality over men/women % of MC is not something you would want to focus on I would rather have a quality story and universe whatever of the gender of the MC.
( I will clarify my point , I am an human therefore I am for gender equality obviously but I don’t think that this metric is the most interesting )
I completely agree that the quality of the story is kinda the whole point, but I am tired of seeing comments like the one RightHand made; complaining that she is a woman just because she is a woman.
Yep redpills comments are tiring
It isn’t a complaint, simply an observation. I usually pick to play as a woman in games I can choose the gender of the protagonist anyway.
Same. If I’m going to have to look at an ass for 40 hours of gameplay, I’d rather it was a woman’s ass.
I mean, I agree. But, based on that argument, it’s totally fine if 100% of pre-created MCs are women then, since it’s only the story and universe that are important (and I would be 100% a-ok with that happening).
True
Besides, they’ve already established some of her signature abilities and had people play as her in some of the previous game, kicking the familiarity up an extra notch.
Yep. Ciri isnt the worst choice in the world, I just was hoping I could have played as my own character instead. It will be interesting to see what they do with the story.
Yeah, I’d have preferred making my own character too but, failing that, a great character that’s already established in the series and has been a lot of fun playing as so far ain’t bad either!
I really hope they don’t stick with Ciri gameplay from TW3, I never liked when I was forced to play as Ciri, her abilities was less fun than Geralt signs.
Judging by the video, she’ll be behaving more like a witcher, with the two swords, the signs, and the potion quaffing. If they hold to that and also let her keep her “short teleport” move from TW3, I’m looking forward to it 🙂
If they changed the double dodge = roll to double dodge = short teleport, but not as crazy as in TW3 that would be cool, they could also make the whole gameplay more agile than TW3, seems like a good fit for Ciri.
I did. The games already completely shit on the ciri book lore. I was hoping for a fresh slate with new characters, perhaps during a different time period entirely.
Young vesemir FTW?
I was hoping you could be the first witcher. That would have been awesome.
In my opinion it doesn’t make all that much sense because of major Witcher 3 spoilers.
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How so? One of the endings literally has geralt gift a witcher sword to Ciri. The only thing I’m confused about is how she now seems to have the witcher mutations
Witcher books spoiler
One of the early Witcher books mentioned that Ciri was given some witcher drugs while she was training at Kaer Morhen, but didn’t undergo the trial of the grasses at Triss’ request.
Continuation of the book spoilers
Wacky books tbh. I don’t remember thinking it was for her to undergo trail they gave it to her, but mostly because that’s all they really knew to do
It makes perfect sense with two of the three endings, and could even work with the third depending on how much CDPR wants to explain the cosmology behind the white frost.
It’s almost definitely a break with the series in that you likely won’t be able to import your save file, which always was a core feature of the series. There are also other lore details that don’t add up here, which have already been explained. There could’ve been many ways to progress the story but I don’t see how that is possible here. It’s most likely a soft reboot.
Some games do allow you to import saves from older games that have swapped the MC. They just take the choices you made in the story arc and use that to create conditions for the world you’re now in. But it’s a rare occasion from what I know.
It could work the same way as the three origin stories in CP77: each ending from The Witcher 3 leading to a separate intro story with a time skip before the main game begins.
I guess that could be possible though I doubt it. The 3 origin stories in Cyberpunk were extremely shallow and didn’t add anything to the story. I don’t see why they would go for it again when it didn’t work out last time.