• Engywuck@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Opposing capital punishment without a trial != defending millionaires.

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      so what crime would Thompson be charged with?

      oh? no crimes were committed you say?

      preposterous! his executive actions were costing thousands of American’s their lives!

      that’s not illegal? …because his support group in the DOJ won’t ever make corporations take responsibility for killing people?

      well…what do you get when you oppress citizens and ensure they have no legal way to stop you?

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        Democracy can’t tolerate arbitrary homicide, but hey, whatever. I’m not the one in charge.

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          Good thing we haven’t been a functioning democratic republic since the 1970s and don’t get a vote on our economy, as both parties are well bribed to protect the sociopathic economy from the citizens it hurts.

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          Democracy can’t tolerate a lot of things that are actively happening. Most of these things are legal, and frankly, with all of the suffering and murderous actions, concern trolling over the single time the shoe is on the other foot in class warfare is about as dumb as Trump supporters thinking that because Trump was indicted that they’re coming for them next. I felt safer with the murderer abroad. Everyone without gobs of money or perfect health should have.

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            I find it a bit hypocritical to complain about murders while advocating murder. No problem on my part. It’s not that I care. It’s something that everyone has to debate with their own conscience.

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              I don’t think it’s hypocritical to want someone committing a 9/11 scale murder yearly while a legal system nods in approval to stop murdering, but from a low power perspective there’s not much to be done about that. The system has been changed from a justice seeking system into a class warfare tool by the elite. Change would be better, but in this system, change comes from above. If the powers within the system are scared, some of them will flee to the moral position to spare themselves the risk. Power that’s brokered through fear is still power, it’s peak liberal to say fear must remain untapped. They would and literally do kill people like us every day, empathy is precious in late stage capitalism, I’ll reserve mine for people who’s suffering isn’t karmic.

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      Someone died. Even if that’s a billionaire from health insurance, someone dying is usually not a good thing. What is good about this situation is how it has put class consciousness in the public eye in a way that it wasn’t before.

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          As someone who’s also glad, the falsehood that we get what we deserve after we die is a very harmful one.

          Justice doesn’t come naturally or in some fairy tale afterlife. Justice came to Brian because someone else saw to it that it did.

          The world would be a better place if people weren’t deluded into believing the universe or some imagined deity will make things fair. It’s a very pretty lie, but it has equally ugly consequences.

          If we want a just world, we need to make one. It won’t be handled off screen for us. This life is all we get.

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        I agree about the gained consciousness, that’s a good thing. On the other hand, being I’m firmly against death sentence (even with a trial), what I don’t agree with is homicide. That’s not justice. It’s just vengeance. And it’s a very dangerous slippery slope.

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          Homicide is wrong and it can be a slippery slope.

          However, the system for dealing with monopolies/oligopolies is broken. Regulatory capture has occurred. The rich shifted taxes to the poor. And a Fortune 8 company continues to kill thousands of Americans and make massive profits from doing so.

          The Paradox of Intolerance tells us that letting this continue will only result in the deaths of thousands more Americans. Tolerating this behavior results in more 1000x more American deaths and inspires others to profit off the pain, misery, and death of our fellow citizens.

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          So how do you suggest to solve the situation when there are a lot of people who should be in jail or worse but they are rich so the government justice system does not work for them? In the lifetime of one person who’s life was destroyed by the said evil person.

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            Killing them, of course. /s

            Go head, buy a rifle and start your vengeance. Don’t wait for others to do it, if you’re so brave (spoiler: you’re not and you’re just talking out of your ass).

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              Don’t forget you wouldn’t even be privileged to have this conversation with the billionaires who conspire to rob and then kill us every single day. The coward talking out of their ass is the one who looks at a broken power structure and can only muster a meek, “not like this.” Save your speeches for those doing the real killing.

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                  People like you are dangerous to those of us actually trying to make a positive change. You’d sell out your fellow man to the elites if push came to shove and we can sense that cowardice in you. Don’t expect us to be stoked about traitors. If you don’t want to help then at least get out of the fucking way.

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                    Oh, fuck off, moron. If you think that homicide is positive change, then you values are severely off. Cowardice… LOL, please stop the cringe. Idiot.