For the record I was posting in support of inclusive language, but pointing out that context and convention matter.

They seem to have even scrubbed my comment from their instance, lol.

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    I have the same issue with saying “whats up guys?!” I’ve legit had women say “um, I’m not a guy, ‘girlfriend’.” It’s like, get over it. It’s a figure of speech Yeesh calm down.

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    Wow, somebody that day was salty, and pretty much just looking for a comment to get mad about.

    There’s another FOSS project idea: a bot that detects Lemmy bans and sends you a notification about it.

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    who cares. some of these communities are trash who don’t allow you to participate if you don’t align with their views. no different than reddit.

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      OP’s complaint is that he was not aware of the ban so he was commenting into nothing.

      This is really software issue, they can ban him, and he can block them back. No problem at all.

      The issue is that these servers are blocking new people and they might get pissed about not knowing it. This is UX issue for fediverse.

      On top of it, these bans are arbitrary and capricious for the most part, so again, this will piss anyone who does know how fediverse works.

      We got 50k AMU, with too many mods with nothing to do, so they find busy work.

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        fair but I’ve been banned because I didn’t follow the flow of the political narrative of the conversation. I don’t consider myself squarely in one camp so I read, understand, and comment/criticize what I feel I want to engage with. I will admit i was auto banned from one instance and got no response from anyone, so I can relate to what your comment is getting at.

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          I didn’t follow the flow of the political narrative of the conversation.

          There is a lot of censorship on lemmy both personal bias and outright regime narrative support.

          That’s a huge issue, no doubt.

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    They could not in fact get over it, dude.

    They must feel very strongly about the word dude. I’m in your camp on it. It’s an exclamation, nothing more 🤷

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    I just checked my username in the mod log… Apparently I’ve been banned from 13 different communities. Interestingly none on hexbear despite habitually going there and accusing everyone of huffing paint/glue/other solvent abuse.

    Edit: on closer inspection, apart from one from blåhaj they’re all from Lemmy.ml so I guess it doesn’t count.

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      How do you check your name in the mod log? I feel as though I’ve been pretty chill but I’m curious to see if I’ve stepped on anyone’s toes.

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        You called someone’s reply rude and a mod removed your comment. It’s the only thing in the mod log under your username.

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          @recklessengagement@lemmy.world if you go to the bottom of the page on the default web frontend, there’s a link to the modlog and you can search your username.

          I have no idea how well federation of modlogs works exactly, though. I usually check on ml to see if I’ve been banned again on ml (you don’t have to be logged in).

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            I’m apparently banned from some vegan community because I argued against them when they said they’re more oppressed than black people in America 😂🤣😂🤣

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    Wow. That is about the tamest comment that’s ever gotten someone banned.

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      I’ve seen worse for just for putting criticism in threads asking for user’s “questions, concerns, requests and issues”. And at the admin level, in a major instance where they never really apologized or corrected themselves until a couple of months later without really assuming any blame.

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    Depending on what you were replying to, I could see how that is transphobic. Like if you were replying to someone saying they don’t like to be called dude and you end the post with “get over it, dude!”?

    You said it yourself. Context matters.

    For what it’s worth, I’ve met trans women who dislike the term dude. It might be more common than you think.

    Also, after thinking on this more, I feel more confident it has to do with the hypothetical “if you’re offended [by me calling you dude], get over it dude” as doubling down on using a term someone doesn’t want you to as soon as they’ve told you not to.

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          OP stated what his intention and meaning here was but we got half a comment section int his thread trying prove that he meant something else.

          Very paternalistic behavior:

          1. removing OP’s agency then
          2. imposing punitive measure
          3. gas lighting “we told you what you meant, stfu!”

          Microcosm of the modding around much of Lemmy really. People with poor reading comprehension or outright bad faith actors?

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            babe the person you replied to stated that the context of the initial post matters.

            no matter the intention, it’s important to consider what the actual impact of the post could’ve been. you just took the piss. my replies to you are reiterating that the context DOES matter, and isn’t just “vibes”.

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              The context here is that OP was posting on lemmy.world when got accosted by some random person about usage of word “dude” being transphobic, which is not true.

              no matter the intention

              ohh really intent don’t matter no more?

              what sort of clown position is this? accusing people of “crimes” and it does not matter if they even meant to commit the crime?

              it’s important to consider what the actual impact of the post could’ve been

              If you are going to harass people online about their choice of words, they will clap back. This is internet 101.

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                they clearly weren’t banned for an intent that they only expressed in the post complaining about being banned. i hope you’re being willfully dense, because i can’t help you if you GENUINELY think this bullshit.

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                  yes i genuinely think that this modding is grade A clown behavior lol

                  the solution is to block the instance, that’s the lesson here.

                  overzealous modding will eventually isolate instances with overzealous modding into echo chambers.

                  but we need these discussions so that general public is educated on these issues.

                  cheers!

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    I’m just glad I’m not the only one who views dude as androgynous.

    I thought I was one of the few.

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      I find these always interesting to read in the following sentence: ‘I fucked a bunch of dudes’.

      Do you also believe that this sentence would work for you? (Assuming you are a heterosexual)

      Because I always thought I was in the ‘Dude is androgynous’ camp, but after considering that sentence: I don’t think so anymore

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        It’s male-leaning, although it gets used androgynously.

        If someone personally didn’t want to be called dude, I’d avoid it. Otherwise it’s not worth freaking out over.

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        Conflation due to context?

        Sure, here’s a concise reply in your voice:

        I think sexual activity adds implied gender relationships that shift how ‘dude’ is interpreted. While ‘dude’ can feel androgynous in casual contexts, in a phrase like ‘fucked a bunch of dudes,’ the sexual framing amplifies its masculine connotations. This shows how cultural norms around sexuality and gender can override attempts at neutrality.

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      I find it androgynous and will use it for anyone, but if anyone told me they were uncomfortable with me referring to them that way, I would stop, as with anything. It’s simply decent to refer to people as they prefer.

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    Wouldn’t be a leftist platform if they didn’t spend the majority of their time and effort self policing based on their purity tests instead of doing something actually productive

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      I still remember watching that socialist convention that spent an hour doing nothing but teaching people to wave their hands in the air to signal applause and running someone down that dared to use the word “guys”. Point of Personal Privilege, my ass.

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    I assume they removed your comment because of your belief in referring to people according to traditional genders: men and women.

    I don’t think that warrants removal or even banning though because as you say, you’re advocating for inclusive change in language. Perhaps the next step would have been the inclusive change of more genders than men and women, perhaps just “people” and dropping the binary distinction altogether.

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    The key is that you said “but…” which in some communities fails the test of absolute 100% agreement and makes you The Enemy. I had a very similar experience there, in my case it was saying someone who is “uncomfortable” with gender issues might not actually “hate” anybody, they could just be having trouble overcoming how they were raised. But in the end it’s like if a TV channel stops but you get thousands of other channels, so oh well <shrug>.

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    Consider the source of the action(a person pursuing a position of authority on a relatively miniscule network) and keep on keeping on. Decades of forums moderated by basement dwellers with a Napoleon complex have made it hard for me to take things like this seriously.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SmAOBbUiZcY