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      The world isn’t black and white. But calling them “civilized” is disingenuous. A country can’t be civilized while also massacring and committing genocides abroad, no matter how much freedom you have.

      No country is civilized, from what i can tell.

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          I wasn’t saying the west is barbaric, but pretending that it is a beacon of morality is just silly.

          The west is the best place to live in, because of exploitation of the third world.

          And what do you even mean by a millennia? Not even 100 years ago, Europe was incredibly racist, and feudalist. They committed:

          The holocaust, Bengal genocide, free Congo, the Sudanese genocide and Gaza genocide.

          PS: fuck China, too. I’m no tankie.

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            Lol where did I pretend we’re a beacon of morality? Stop inventing dreams to make your arguments valid.

            It’s kind of ironic though, you’re using a European invention (the computer) trying to convey that we are all bad using a USA invention (the internet).

            How ironic.

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              You literally said the west is the most civilised place in the world.

              And without us, you wouldn’t even have the concepts to invent any of those, so I guess by your logic you can’t criticize us now.

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                What a torturous logic, yes the west is the most civilised place there is. Why wouldn’t I criticise you, I live in the west, we are not jailed if we criticise, that was one of the points earlier, don’t you remember? You are inventing and dreaming again.

                Are you dreaming of the west maybe? We who invented democracy?

                What country are you from that made us invent democracy, the human rights and so much more? Dream land I guess.

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                  the Athenians/Phoenicians invented democracy, not you. The ancient egyptians thought of human rights before you even dreamt of it. The mesopotamians invented the wheel.

                  And yes, how would you invent literally anything without proper numerals, algebra, calculus, trigonometry, and more?