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Encephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win to Ukraine@sopuli.xyzEnglish · 1 year ago

Ukraine's military is 980,000 soldiers strong, Zelensky says

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Ukraine's military is 980,000 soldiers strong, Zelensky says

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Encephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win to Ukraine@sopuli.xyzEnglish · 1 year ago
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"The Ukrainian army is the largest in Europe. The second place after us (France) is four times smaller than us," President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
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    Ukraine lowered the mobilization age from 27 to 25 in April 2024 but resisted the international partners’ calls to further lower it to 18.

    I always thought 18 seemed low, seems to me like an attempt to get them young and naive, and easier to mold.
    21 should be the earliest IMO.

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      @Buffalox Here in Europe, 18 is generally considered the adulthood age, beyond which you can get a license, you can vote, you can buy property, you have full responsibility of yourself in front of the law etc. - so it would be something along those lines.

      I personally didn’t feel that adult at that age either, though…

      @Cephalotrocity

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        Adulthood is very subjective.

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        It is interesting looking at adult age through out history. I’m not even a historian. Females have been considered adults as young as 10, and males as young as 12 (just that I’m aware of). On the other extreme males have been considered kids as old as 50 (Romans your dad decided or he died, so I support a 3 year old male may have been an adult. I’m not sure how they treated females other than they were a very sexist society)

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          @fu driving license. You cannot get a driving license until you’re 18.

          @Buffalox @Cephalotrocity

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          Any adult thing requiring a license. Operating most vehicles, owning firearms, Run a business, etc…

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        Your premise is flawed:

        • A cause can be right and just and people still not want to volunteer.
        • Ukraine’s cause is right and just and they do have volunteers, just not as many as would be ideal,
        • Conscription is not immoral if it serves the greater Good, and in this case it absolutely does.

        If your reasoning is that flawed you should rethink your allegiance to cowardice or russia, or both.

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          conscription is also necessary to solve for game theory in many cases

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            Says a lot that you use the market to decide what is right or just.

            Edit: and they do have volunteers. For example, this is just for international volunteers

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        @fu Not a single state is fully moral. And not a single person does only moral choices during their entire life. Sometimes the most immoral choices are the right thing to do to achieve a just cause.

        @Buffalox @Cephalotrocity

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            @fu well, in math two values with minus added get you a vallue with plus ;)

            @Buffalox @Cephalotrocity

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              … multiplied. 2 negatives multiplied equals a positive.

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                @Cephalotrocity exactly, my bad

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