• Adderbox76@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    I wouldn’t even go so far as to say it’s that they “like” Harris.

    She seems good. And Walz was a truly inspired pick for running mate in the current political climate of the United States. But I think a LOT of this excitement comes from just not being old as fuck.

    The size and immediacy of the reaction to her candidacy tells me that there’s a sense of almost cathartic relief that there’s actually someone in the game that can actually still function AS the president. I’m sure Harris and her personality have something to do with it as well; but at least some of the “wave” as they call it, would have existed for literally anyone on the ticket who could dress themselves compared to the two old geezers they had to choose from before.

    This is just my take as a Canadian watching, suddenly interested, from the North.

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      Also, the difference between the tone of the speechea between Harris and Trump are like day and night. Where Trump continues to throw dirt and spew so much negativity, Harris sounds like someone who steps beyond the dirt throwing and really comes with a vision and ideas how to govern the country.

      Well, my 2cts from someone on the other end of the Atlantic 😀

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        Harris sounds like someone who steps beyond the dirt throwing

        I do however enjoy that she throws just enough snark and jabs in there to really get under Trump’s skin, though.

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          It’s not dirt as much as it’s surprise pocket sand/glitter that sticks to absolutely everything and is impossible to get rid of.

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    I’m voting for the NOT TRUMP candidate until we fix this broken system and have better options. Couldn’t really stand Biden, but I was supporting the fuck out of that dude if it meant we could avoid the shit show that would be a Trump presidency.

    I feel better with Harris, but still not ideal.

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      “I never vote for, only against.” – W.C. Fields in a rare serious moment.

      Something I take to heart. I will never get a candidate who represents everything I stand for, but there will always be one who represents less of what I stand for than the other.

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        I saw something similar recently along the lines of:

        Voting isn’t a love-letter to a candidate; it’s a chess move.

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          Great quote. Also, love your username. SQL injection vibes.

          Edit: Went in search of more info about this quote and thought I’d share what I found:

          “A vote is a chess move, not a valentine.”

          • Rebecca Solnit

          It’s a summarized version of the writer’s idea/turn of phrase she often brought up in her writing around the 2016 election.

          Here’s her November 2016 article from The Nation.

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            In reality is just results in being @'d regularly in tech-related groupchats when people post error messages.

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      until we fix this broken system

      THIS. Campaign Finance & Election Reform is the most important single-issue in America right now because it impacts quite literally every other problem and the disenfranchisement and frustrations so many Americans feel with the system right ow.

      • Amidst this 2-Party System, we have no choice but to vote for the lesser-of-two-poor choices.
      • Between these two parties, only one party has actually advocated for fixing the system.
      • We need a Constitutional Amendment. It’s the only way.
      • This movement needs to be grassroots and built state-by-state.

      The good news is that there is untapped bipartisan support for said initiative. We just need to ALL keep repeating this, which again, is easy because it can be injected into nearly every single political conversation.

      Longer write-up for those interested.

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      The irony of calling “double hater” people who as a general rule don’t like people who spread hate or actively support those who practice hate, is also delicious and kind of says everything one needs to know about the Doublethink style of discourse of the people making up such labels.

      Being truly anti-hate as a principle logically makes one be both against Trump and Biden, one for spreading hate and the other for actively supporting people practicing their hate aginst men, women and children with extreme violence.

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      At various times over the last 10 years there have been different versions of the satirical “ANY FUNCTIONING ADULT” for president yard signs and bumper stickers, and we thought we were joking, but how true it is.

      And it’s amazing how little function it takes to make a difference. Like, cognitive function, for instance, turns out to be really refreshing in a potential world leader.

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        Refreshing indeed. Harris at least looks like she can answer the ‘what year is it and do you know who the current president is?’ questions without needing a ten minute nap prior to answering.

        Heck, she might even have a good idea as to the price of a gallon of milk! The US might just end up with something resembling actual leadership for the next four years.

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          Refreshing indeed. Harris at least looks like she can answer the ‘what year is it and do you know who the current president is?’ questions without needing a ten minute nap prior to answering.

          She does more than look the part. Did you see her walking up stairs to enter a plane and a reporter asked her a question? This young one turned her head, answered the question, all while still walking UPSTAIRS. I was like a bit shocked, after getting used to Biden’s geriatric ass. Was this woman a superhero?

          She has a lot of that energy and I couldn’t imagine one of the 2 olds doing that.

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    I’m among them. Thought, Harris still wouldn’t have been mu first choice but she’s a hell of a lot better than Biden.

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      That’s wayyyy too early to say. Her only really different policy position is on Medicare For All and fracking, everything else is a matter of degrees. Even then Biden doesn’t particularly oppose Medicare For All, he just said it needs to be tax supported and not based on debt spending.

      Whether she’ll be better in practice is really more a function of Congressional support. If the Dems can’t take Congress and the pack the Court nothing else will matter anyways.

      Unless she wants to take a firmer position vis a vis Officially Acting to Publicly Execute certain Justices. I don’t believe she’s stated an intent on that.

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          We can never expect anything groundbreaking out if the Democratic party. The best thing is just solidifying some already predatory practice that may be slightly better than the previous predatory practice. Your best bet is to support any sort of voting reform that you come across such as Ranked Choice Voting. With that, we can hope to rid ourselves of the two-party hegemony.

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    The fuck do they have to give it such a negative name? I think a lot of people didn’t like either option, across a lot of different spectra of citizen.

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    Rules for not losing election*:

    1. Don’t insult the intelligence of your voters by calling them double haters.
    2. Don’t insult the intelligence of your voters by pretending that they won’t remember that you supported a genocidal maniac. No, the opposition being worse doesn’t excuse your depravity.
    3. Don’t insult the intelligence of your voters by beating them with the stick of facism. They already understand what’s on the line. Debating online is different from voting.

    *Does not apply to conservatives who worship Trump

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      I very much don’t think your average person understands the threat of fascism or what’s on the line, I feel like that belief comes from being in a left leaning echo chamber.

      Obviously anecdotal but the vast majority of people I know are not great about consuming news, are not politically active, and don’t believe this election will have the deep consequences that I do.

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        Your first paragraph doesn’t really make sense as those on the left tend to be the most keenly aware of the dangers of fascism, since

        a) First they came for LGBTQ+ people (which was left out of the poem since it was written by a conservative priest who was fine with persecution of THEM) and then they came for us

        b) it’s always us that end up having to fight fascists alone since the liberals try to negotiate with them (or stay out of it at first and then join them like they did in Italy with Mussolini) and the others on the far right try to become their allies

        Unless you consider Neoliberals left leaning. In which case you’re MORE wrong, but your logic is more consistent.