She is killing it. He made a huge fucking mistake lying about her on video to the world. She just wanted to be left alone and go to college. Now she’s out to expose him.
And he really should have known better. This is a woman who, without any need to do so, put it on the court record that she disowned him at a formality hearing to register a name change a couple of years ago. No one asked her, no one expected her to say it, she just wanted a legal record of her disowning one of the richest men in the world when she could have just waited for him to die and see if she inherited anything.
Check out her interview. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-transgender-daughter-vivian-wilson-interview-rcna163665
Before that, I could only imagine what sort of horrible father he was to prompt her to do that. Now I know exactly what sort of horrible father he was.
“I lost my son, essentially,” Musk said. He used Wilson’s birth name, also known as a deadname for transgender people, and said she was “dead, killed by the woke mind virus.”
i don’t have kids but i can’t even comprehend someone saying something like that about their own child
That’s nothing compared to what she’s said he’s said to her directly. No exact quotes, but she made it pretty clear that he was constantly saying homophobic things to her. And that was before she transitioned and he just thought she was gay.
This is sadly a pretty common thing for trans people.
I’m no psychologist or sociologist, but it seems that most of the people who treat their kids this way had kids because of external expectations or for status. They treat their kids like property or as an extension of themselves. Raising them to be cis no matter what is not about their child’s well-being, it’s about how having a trans child makes them look in the eyes of their bigoted, greedy, status-seeking, peers. When their kids come out as trans, they see this as a personal attack on their place in the pecking order.
In general, they treat even their cis children like shit, because they don’t think of their children as people, children are just assets in what they think is some kind of cosmic dick measuring contest.
It’s incomprehensible because it’s pathological and generally sick.
Yes, the thought/behavior patterns aren’t unique to transphobia. I always refer back to this beautiful guardian op ed https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo
It’s a work of art I love it so much. wish some voice actor would do a dramatic reading.
Robert Evan’s (AKA Podcast Daddy) had a piece about this. His denial of his daughter’s transition is of a piece with his pro-natalist stance and his desire to colonize space. He is trying to become immortal. His child transitioning marks her as her own person, rather than an extension of him, which reinforces the fact that he will die one day.
How does that reinforce it? I want to be immortal too, but I want my kids to be independent and strong.
I can’t wrap my head around how someone who wants to be a transhuman would have a problem with transgender humans. How does he not see that leopard coming to eat his face?
14 words breeder shit
For those who don’t get the reference, she’s calling him a literal NAZI.
Thank you! I came here to say this.
Wow, what a load of crap. I wonder if Musk really talked about that stuff, which would be taking his shittiness to the next level.
He talks about it openly. “Falling birthrates” and “the great replacement” are dog whistles for “white genocide”. They’re talking about how “the white race” is going to “lose” because the white people are outnumbered by people of color.
It’s such garbage. I’m not sure why anyone cares about anyone else’s skin tone. I’m lilly white, but I wouldn’t care at all if everyone in the world was an even brown at some future time. Why would I?
A lot of people cope by convincing themselves they’re innately “better” than some outgroup. For some people it’s music taste, for some people it’s skin color, etc. A lot of it is subtle bigotry learned during childhood from media and parents. Elon grew up in apartheid South Africa with a father who owned part of an emerald mine, I feel like that could explain a lot.
There’s also something to be said about the addictive nature of conspiracy theories. Elon was always a “wacky guy” or whatever but there was definitely a point where he went from a typical rich dick to whatever the fuck this is and he seems like he’s pretty far down the “aliens built the pyramids” to “jewish people run the world” pipeline.
transcription: @elonmusk tweets “There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye” about an article titled “The Awful Truth: Paul Pelosi Was Drunk Again, And In a Dispute With a Male Prostitute Early Friday…” from
smobserved.com“jewish people run the world” pipeline.
He’s already there.
Oh. Those 14 words. I thought there was another set of words specifically against child free people.
I appreciate you remembering not everyone is tuned into this stuff to the same degree. I just immediately thought “oh, he’s a nazi? That scans” when I saw the 14 words reference.
You know what, I think Elon’s kid is gonna turn out alright.
I think Elon’s kid is gonna turn out alright.
I’d say she already did.
The interview she gave with NBC says she’s a college student studying languages, so if nothing else, she could have a good life as a translator. And you don’t generally study languages plural in college if you’re not very smart.
She’s Elon’s kid, and she had to suffer through being trans in a society that doesn’t broadly accept it (and at least one parent who doesn’t), so she’s got a lot going against her, but she sure seems to speak out with self confidence, so I hope she’s one of those who was able to just grow from the hardships.
Sometimes I doubt my skills as a father. Then I read shit like this and realize I’m doing alright.
I tell a lot of new parents that kids are amazingly resilient, so when you inevitably make mistakes, they’ll likely be fine. On the other hand, they’re amazingly sensitive and perceptive, so no matter how good of a job you do, you’ll probably leave then with at least minor issues. I mean, if someone you know has zero emotional issues, it probably means you don’t know them that well.
Same. As with so many things in life, giving a shit and showing up get you like 80% of the way there.
One thing I noticed, and you can check this for yourself too, is that American media outlets constantly refer to her as ‘Elon Musks transgender daughter’, and it really bothers me it’s not just ‘Elon Musks Daughter.’
So I checked, and the BBC, CTV News (canadian), CBC (also canadian) all just refer to her as his daughter.
I absolutely love that she’s bringing the lumber, but I could really do with news organizations not using that as her identifier. She’s not ‘Elon Musk’s transgender daughter.’ She’s Vivian Jenna Wilson, she doesn’t even consider Elon her father. I’ll let her speak for herself here:
(From her name change):
“I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form,” she wrote on the petition.
“I would like to emphasize one thing: I am an adult,” she said, according to NBC. “I am 20 years old. I am not a child. My life should be defined by my own choices.”
I hate to say it, but until trans people are normalized in American society, pointing out that his daughter is trans is probably necessary for people to understand why Elon says he lost his son.
You’re not wrong, but I think we all really wish you were.
Sad thing is, clarifying Elon’s hatred by pointing his daughter is trans, gives credence to his take in some folks’ eyes.
The conversation maybe ugly, but it still has to be had.
One of the core values of conservatism is removing regulations and protections for regular people against corporations, and giving them more power. That’s what Elon believes in. The rest of it, like the “family values” and “religious rights” are just a smoke screen for the voters.
language of the enemy
what have we done to him? I hate him even more than I did before reading this.
Edit: I didn’t expect my comment to track. I may as well take this opportunity to post a Chrisitan Arab’s perspective on Arabic
Consider a language spoken by Christians for more than fifteen hundred years. Its early masters composed exquisite poetry, pioneering a tradition that still flourishes today. Many of the great works of Christian thought were composed in this language; many of the most significant texts of philosophy, medicine, and astronomy were preserved in it. The Bible could be read in it for centuries before it could be read in English, French, German, or Spanish. Today it is spoken and written across Europe and North America, as well as Asia and Africa; it features prominently in modern political thought and advocacy. I am speaking, of course, of Arabic.
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2024/08/arabic-a-christian-language
Many westerners still blame everything and everyone Arab for 9/11.
It is also true that “many” Westerners are more enlightened than that, but the ones that aren’t always shout the loudest.
I’m sorry to disappoint you but a sizeable proportion of westerners in my humble experience are racist towards Arabs and Muslims. It’s literally the core of the platform under which the extreme right wing thrives in Europe
Don’t forget who you were Elon. Trying to erase an image, almost like you no longer feel like that person anymore (or maybe never did)
The time Elon tried cosplaying Edward Scissorhands
The reason why he hasn’t sued her for libel is because he knows her lawyers would mop the floor with him with the disclosure.
stepped foot
Bone apple tea.
It’s a misused phrase, yes, but also a very common one that’s been happening since the early 1800s. Even made it into the American dictionary.
things like this are why we should federate with threads
This is tragic to read. The mind-virus is real. Still, there’s always hope for reconciliation because people can change.
i like how this comment is ideology agnostic :)
I’ll solve the mystery on this one.
This guy is an unashamed MAGA supporter (check his post history) , so there’s no ambiguity: he’s supporting Musk’s position, not his daughters response.
If I had to call it, I would have agreed from the use of the term mind-virus
