• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
    361·
    2 months ago

    Revolutions are long-term work. They are not nor ever have been overnight affairs throughout history.

    Now there’s an adage attributed to everyone’s favoritr 20th century revolutionary actor: “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.”

    These are to be taken into account together. Don’t mistake those weeks as separate or independent from the decades.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    407·
    2 months ago

    Martin wouldn’t have won without Malcolm. And he wouldn’t have won if he spent all his time yelling at Malcom to calm down instead of fighting for civil rights.

    You can say you want slow incremental change because you think we have plenty of time. (Most will disagree with you tho, cuz you’re wrong)

    But if you spend your time fighting against progress rather than making sure at least some progress is made…

    We’re going to spend more time backsliding than slowly walking up hill.

    Go up the hill too fast and you just get there a little early, backslide too much and you can fall all the way to the bottom, break your leg, and never be able to climb back up.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1810·
      2 months ago

      I read this post as being about Malcolm. He kept the pressure going his entire life. He always kept organizing and kept the pressure going. Really I think what this is encouraging people to do is to look more towards Malcolm X than to Marcus Garvey. Look for the true anarchists, not for the people who want to redo capitalism but this time their group is on top, because that shits how you get Israel genociding Palestine

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        135·
        2 months ago

        Look for the true anarchists, not for the people who want to redo capitalism but this time their group is on top,

        I couldn’t really follow your comment even before you implied anarchy so the only other alternative to capitalism…

        Or how that relates to an ongoing genocide…

        Like, I just can’t follow anything you just said. I understand all the words, but there’s nothing tying them together

  • BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world
    154·
    2 months ago

    If you’re defining long-term as 4-8 years, sure. If your idea of long-term is defined in decades, are you aware the planet is on fire?

  • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
    132·
    2 months ago

    Most modern revolution mindset is both childish and often used as a way to shield and justify the real underlying cynicism and lack of willingness to put in work.

  • squid_slime@lemm.ee
    9·
    2 months ago

    this is nuanced. in the UK after ww2 our army’s returned without housing, without long term health care which we did fight for and Britain had an NHS and housing within 5 years but we had to struggle to get it. now in current, we’ve slowly been selling our NHS, council housing isn’t built at the necessary speeds. our towns and cities as well as education are on the brink of bankruptcy. capitalists are far better at small incremental changes then we are.

    where incremental action does work is strike action, anti war movements as they empower the working class to fight but we wont get the world we want without a revolution. speaking of cause a classless society.

  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
    1411·
    2 months ago

    This is kind of a garbage take. Revolution is just one puzzle piece in the large set of tools necessary to effect real change. Revolution can also happen in many different ways from silent to political to violent. And all of those can very much happen overnight if all the pieces are in the right place.

      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        13·
        2 months ago

        I think (I hope) by overnight revolution, they mean the tipping point from civil unrest into actual change. It took a decade of protesting for Civil Rights to get popular support, but the law was drafted, written, and signed in less than a week due to the destruction wrought across the country after MLK was assassinated.

  • modifier@lemmy.ca
    53·
    2 months ago

    I’m not sure about how this makes me feel.

    It is a highly appealing statement to the carefully, but barely, suppressed centrist in me.

    I suspect a placebo.

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
    1211·
    2 months ago

    Sounds like something we’re supposed to hear in order to not rise up. I know I’ve been waiting a while and it sucks to see the young generation going through the same hoops.

    I’ll just keep waiting till someone actually needs help building a gallows or something

    • sorhead@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      You missed the bit where it says “work”. Waiting is not work.

    • socsa@piefed.social
      3·
      2 months ago

      It’s actually the opposite - the idea that you need a revolution to enact change is meant to keep you demoralized and pacified because you won’t get off your couch unless you see people marching in the streets.