Speaking at a news conference in Doha, Qatar, alongside Qatar’s prime minister and minister of foreign affairs, Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, Mr. Blinken said that “a deal was on the table that was virtually identical” to one that Hamas put forward on May 6.

At some point, he said, “you have to question whether they’re proceeding in good faith or not.”

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      Always ask yourself, “Where’s the money coming from.”

      Hamas is not being funded by Palestinians. Palestinians are broke as fuck.

      Hamas is being funded by neighboring countries, who want to eliminate Israel. The same reason those countries invaded Israel the day after the British protectorate ended.

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        Hamas is being funded by neighboring countries

        Cough

        For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them.

        During his meetings in September with the Qatari officials, according to several people familiar with the secret discussions, the Mossad chief, David Barnea, was asked a question that had not been on the agenda: Did Israel want the payments to continue?

        Mr. Netanyahu’s government had recently decided to continue the policy, so Mr. Barnea said yes. The Israeli government still welcomed the money from Doha.

        Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

        Cough cough

        Mr Levy - who was head of economic warfare in the Mossad, Israel’s spy agency, until 2016 - says he told Mr Netanyahu many times that Israel had the means to crush Hamas, which controls Gaza, “by using only financial tools”.

        Mr Levy says he never got a response to his proposal from Mr Netanyahu. When asked if he considered there was a connection between Mr Netanyahu’s alleged reluctance to deal with Hamas’s finances and the 7 October attack, Mr Levy is unequivocal.

        “Yes, of course,” he says. “There is a very good chance that… we would [have] prevent[ed] a lot of the money” that had gone into Gaza, and that “the monster that Hamas built probably [wouldn’t be] like the same monster that we faced on October 7th.”

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68318856

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      Really?

      You know the human rights abuses and land grabbing happened prior to 10/7, right?

      And they want the permanent ceasefire so that it finally stops.

      If it’s not an internationally recognized permanent ceasefire, Israel is going right back to what they were doing prior to 10/7.

      Anything else is just Hamas giving up every bargaining chip they have for no gain…

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    Fuck Blinken and fuck the NYT

    Fuck anyone that gives speeches at AIPAC and expects us to believe they’re not bought off already

    https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-at-the-2023-american-israel-public-affairs-committee-policy-summit/

    Now, I have to admit – (applause) – thank you. As I was talking with Michael and Howard and the other senior leadership of AIPAC a moment ago, I said my lifelong ambition has already been fulfilled by AIPAC because a few years ago – some of you may have been there – I got to appear in the Dallas Cowboys football stadium on a jumbotron. (Laughter.) Never thought that would happen. It’s thanks to you.

    Motherfuckers don’t even try to deny that they’ve been bought off.

    If you’re mad conservatives buy off SC justices with trips and bribes, then you should be pissed off when other high level government officials are bought off.

    And AIPAC buys a shit ton of government officials, regardless of party or anything else.

    They just require complete dedication to Israel over everything else

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      Why is it hard to believe that the people who started this war don’t actually want it to end

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        What?

        I agree with that (except calling this genocide a war).

        Israel started it decades ago, and openly keep saying they won’t let it end until their genocide is finished.

        They don’t want it to end yet, because there’s still Palestinians alive in Gaza.

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          Israel started it? Who was it that invaded the day after the British protectorate ended? Oh right, not Israel. Instead they got invaded by all of the neighbouring arab countries who didn’t like the UN approved borders.

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            the day after the British protectorate ended?

            That’s a weird place to start the clock…

            Like, you understand that wasn’t that long after that land was all Palestine and the people who had lived there for generations had just been forced out with violence?

            That’s like if you robbed someone but instead of leaving you just stayed in their house and made them live in the backyard for months while threatening them at gunpoint…

            Then one day you sold the gun.

            Would you be surprised the family took the opportunity to get their house back?

            What do you expect that family to do if your brother was the Sheriff and the cops took your side?