Relevant quote from JFK:
Those who make peaceful protest impossible make violent revolution inevitable
Probably only a matter of time before there’s a lot of Italian plumbers all over Europe…
Historically speaking, militant environmentalists have been targeting infrastructure, not people. The current mainstream movement is nonviolent to the point of absurdity, whereas their militant counterpart is basically nonexistent. It’s a bit counterintuitive if you think about it; a movement which objects to the very real violence that industry subjects both people and entire ecosystems to is completely nonviolent.
The current mainstream movement is nonviolent to the point of absurdity, whereas their militant counterpart is basically nonexistent
That’s probably because the politicians in the pockets of the fossil fuel interests made laws declaring it terrorism, with ridiculously long prison sentences.
Now that they’re doing the same with peaceful protest, though, it’s no wonder that people are reverting to direct action.
Not much point in going with the least effective option as long as you’re only hurting corporations and the punishment is roughly the same 🤷
Finally some prospect!
Mamma mia!
You can say Luigi here
I know. I wasn’t trying to self-censor. Mentioning Italy just felt like a fitting way to talk about Luigi in the context of Europe 🤷
Probably where it should’ve started all along.
Probably won’t see this on Reddit.
People in power pretend to forget that protesting is a needlessly polite form of reminding them of our struggles, needs, and injustices.
So far pretend to teach us how protesting is wrong. How the bigger of the two classes shouldn’t protest due to fear of consequences.
I don’t understand who would be dense enough to expect any other outcome here.
We’re talking about survival of the species long term, some of us absolutely are not afraid of “jail” or “juries” other than for it slowing their ability to foster change.
Sabotage is more effective and requires smaller groups of people.
What a moronic headline?! UK is not Europe, and environmental protests are not criminalized in any other European country AFAIK.
Also there are rules for protests, if you break those, you may be arrested. Disregarding what the protest is about.Edit:
To those that downvote, it’s the same as writing Asia is making something illegal, but it’s really only Thailand.
Please explain how that’s not moronic?PS: There are rules to prevent protests to turn violent, because violent protests are NOT democratic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attackIf you think any protest anywhere ever is about following rules then you have completely missed the point of protest
Bullshit!!
Protests are part of the democratic process, and allowed in democracies.
Lol ok whatever. Keep telling yourself that.
- https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/ice-arrest-mahmoud-khalil-palestinian-activist-columbia-protests/
- https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/5/25/punched-choked-kicked-german-police-crack-down-on-student-protests
- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/france-bans-pro-palestine-rallies-cracks-down-on-protesters-amid-gaza-war
#1 is in UK.
#2 Could have easily been done legally.repressive legal measures taken by universities
Which they can only do because they didn’t do the protests legally.
#3 is about the same as #2.
None of these are environmental, and has absolutely zero saying on the headline that claim:
Europe Criminalizes Environmental Protest
And it doesn’t disprove that these protests could have been arranged legally. There are reasons why we have legal frameworks for protests. One of the reasons is that protests need to be peaceful. Violent protests are NOT democratic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attackPeaceful protest has literally never accomplished anything without the credible threat of violence, you are delusional
Dead wrong, you are historically and politically illiterate
environmental protests are not criminalized in any other European country AFAIK… there are rules for protests, if you break those, you may be arrested. Disregarding what the protest is about.
Real coherent. lol.
Yes that is coherent, there are rules to for instance avoid violent protests. Violent protests are not democratic, violence and lawlessness is how fascism rise.
Like for instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
