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Depart, men of education.

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    It seems like the administration is trying to discourage travel across the border. Not just people on work visas, tourists and even citizens are reporting being detained. It’s like East Germany or something.

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      Citizens too? I’ve not heard of that. Scary

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        Yeah, I read it yesterday I think. US citizen lives in Las Vegas and her German boyfriend comes to visit. They travel to Mexico and then were both detained on the way back in. She was released within days, he spent weeks even after volunteering to just go back to Germany. Fucking nuts.

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          Thats fucked, I’m gonna look for that story. I’ve been seeing lots of stuff (even locally in a relatively progressive state) about trans folks’ documents being confiscated and/or destroyed when they try to leave or get a new or updated passport or sometimes other docs iirc. Please don’t come here, to anyone thinking about it. Period. Unless you’re planning to stay a while and help us out, I don’t recommend it but we will be needing all the help we can get :(

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      Hold up, tourists? Are we safe to visit family?

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        Bruh, ask your consulate

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          At that point I’d rather just avoid the place. It’s not considered safe by our government anyways

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    Why would the US need scientists when they have stable geniuses?

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      AI will fix it.

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        OpenAI promised us PhD agents! Only 20k a month!

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          Persona: you are a very phd person

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    The US is trading science and reason for zeal and faith. At least the scientists will be welcomed in the EU.

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      Why did they leave the EU in the first place

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        Most probably money

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        I seriously considered it at some point, as in my (former) field many top researchers lived in Philly, New York, Boston + Toronto. Becoming a top researcher means travelling where other top researchers are. It was definitely not about money, pay is often equivalent between the EU and the US.

        Eventually decided it was not worth it for me (had other priorities in life), but this is a sacrifice many EU researchers make (or should I say, made) to become top researchers.

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        Operation Paperclip back in the day. Grants and such recently.

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      This is the bobiverse future…

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    Didn’t Albert Einstein flee Nazi Germany which advanced our research into what became the atomic bomb. Hmm… Should be fun century for USA.

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      deleted by creator

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        Rods from God require space infra no one has and won’t for a long while

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      Trump has already dismantled the American empire. The decline will be rapid and terminal. Even if they returned to sanity tomorrow, the damage cannot be undone any time soon. Nobody is going to trust the US again in our lifetimes.

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        Tbh he’s just finishing off a process decades in the making.

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        Oh no, all the trust america built up is suddenly gone…

        When will america be the worlds best step dad again!

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      How dare you point out something so relevant and foreboding.

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    Scientists left nazi germany for the US, now they’ll leave nazi US.

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      Also nazi usa took in nazi “scientists”.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

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    Time for scientists to leave the nazi country, just like they left nazi Germany in the 30s and 40s

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      Damned scientists. Everywhere they go, the place turns into a nazi shithole

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      Not to mention the nazi scientists… Nobody wants to talk about them…

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

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    Y’all act like this wasn’t the plan all along

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      We need a name for the opposite of operation paperclip.

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        Loose leaf!

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          Binder drop

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            Hole punch

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              “operation hole punch”? And it’s a coordinated evacuation of scientists?

              It sounds like trials for a new antitank weapon

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        Leaf blower

        Paperclips hold papers together. Leaf blower blows them all over the place

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        Operation crayon

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        Operation braindrain

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    I hope he’s already put of the country before he posted that, or he’ll be stopped and disappeared for being a security risk or something

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    Welcome to Europe! You get to keep your healthcare plans into retirement!

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    Why use Meta when Mastodon is available? The less we all use corporate social media the more resilient we become.

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      You have to keep evangelizing. They’ve likely never heard of it.

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          Maybe juuuuust shy of obnoxious.

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            no, full obnoxious until people start to get angry, then stop entirely

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              And then, for the coup de grace, immediately deny that there even is or was ever such a social network, and insist it was another one of their “wacky dreams”. And then later, they come to you to prove you wrong.

              Boom. Incepted.

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                🤌

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        It’s pretty likely they’ve heard of it as a niche option, as a forgettable factoid years ago.

        Then they may also have learned it’s a very small platform and something about decentralization.

        if they went to sign up regardless, it seems likely they didn’t end up picking an instance. (Possibly having left the page open, briefly looked up Mastodon instances and read a few sentences, then moved on to something else.)

        Now that they wouldn’t have had to pick an instance, they’ve long forgotten about it, maybe you could get them to try the normalized sign up process.

        But anyone who knows anything about people knew from the start that Mastodon wasn’t really even aiming for successful growth. Of course the instances were gonna be an obstacle.

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      You have to say that on Meta if you want them to read it.

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    Why is this in the “memes” community? It is not a meme, is it? We should have a general discussion community for topics like these! (if it doesn’t exist already).

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      Check the sidebar. We use the Dawkins definition of meme here.

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        All shared ideas are memes.

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          Yes, and that breeds creativity. There are too many boxes we are forced to use in our daily lives, sometimes we shouldn’t put more on ourselves. Art and science are so sides of the same coin. You can’t be a good scientist without being a bit of an artist. Our art just looks a bit different.

          https://www.smithsonianmag.com/blogs/national-museum-of-natural-history/2020/04/15/why-science-needs-art/

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          Then what’s the point of the meme community? By that logic anything posted is.

          You’ve broadened the definition so much the term has become useless.

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        I stand corrected! Thank you!

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      That person’s solidarity with a colleague is remarkable and probably worth sharing, but indeed doesn’t look like a meme.

      Yet I see why one would accept such post in a science-focused community. It’s hard to ignore all the attacks on science by US politicians.

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      all pictures with text are “memes” now

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    Pediatric. Oncologist. That dude is an absolute hero and treasure for taking on such a horrible and bleak profession. I hate that those words are combined in existence at all. God I’m so ashamed to be an American.

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      Some people are built different. My dad worked as a pediatric hospice nurse for almost 10 years. Talk about a shitty sad job. Every single patient is a child and every single one of them is GOING to die on your watch. Fuck THAT. I do not know how he did it.

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        I figure we have to have some angels to balance out the demons that end up in positions of prominence in our societies.

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        Now that is a hero

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    Brain Drain time.

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    and women

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      Of course.

      I’ll mention you probably missed the Depart men(t) of Education wordplay in the title.

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      Why are you always going on about women, Stan?

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        is this a reference to something

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          A scene in Life Of Brian.

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    is the title a pun on “depart-ment of education”?

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      It’s from a presidential directive for dissolving the “Departmen of Education”

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      It does appear to be so.

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