No explanation necessary:
Id be tempted to swap jen and roy tbh
This changes my perspective on the entire show… I’m going to have to watch it again for the 152nd time with this in mind now.
I love this so much.
This image?
The show?
“Yes!” 💯
I might require some explanation.
Autism.
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Oh shit, I’m a high masker.
Oh good. I first thought this was some racist image editing joke based on skin colour. And everyone was happily going along with it.
Getting through the day be like:
Subject: Fire. “Dear Sir stroke Madam, I am writing to inform you of a fire which has broken out at the premises of…” No, that’s too formal. “Dear Sir stroke Madam. Fire, exclamation mark. Fire, exclamation mark. Help me, exclamation mark. 123 Carrendon Road. Looking forward to hearing from you. All the best, Maurice Moss.”
0118, 999, 881, 999, 119, 725…3.
Mid AF over here.
No… the IT crowd is a sitcom FOR geeks. That other shit just makes fun of us
I believe this is what happened to Dr Who. When it started it was for science and history nerds, science sounding gobble-de-gook, cos play outfits, very low production values (the infamous duct tape boots). All just good fun.
When it was rebooted the focus had shifted. The Doctor as the cool guy, a Jesus figure, became more and more pronounced. They started to make fun of nerds on a regular bases. Amazing writing and production values, but at some point during the Tennant era I stopped watching in disgust.I only started with NuWho, watching it as it came out in 2005.
I found it magnificent, exactly because it shied away from glorifying violence, made emotions be the focus of things and there was clearly some large over-arching thing with “Bad Wolf”, but it wasn’t like in the American shows, where if there’s a clue to be seen, the camera zooms in on it, making sure you can’t miss it.
I gather you are right, and NuWho is way more American and hero-centric than Classic Who — but because it was and I was a teenager enjoying shows like Prison Break at the time — I got into Who, and then into better British shows, better shows in general, chasing that sort or good pacifist writing. Star Trek is ofc prolly the best franchise when it comes to actual philosophy. Doctor Who elicits emotions more than thought when compared to the Star Trek Ethos, albeit in a more profoundly British way.
Uuh there’s actually a new episode of Dr Who tonight that reminded me.
Oooh, it’s out already. And I have a few glasses of rum left. And a steak. And a pint of red. Ooooooh. This is turning out to be a nice day.
Anyway tldr completely agree with you, but I think going a bit American with NuWho was a crucial step in luring in more watchers to start appreciating the good things. Kinda how for a kid, it’s easier to learn to eat a new dish when you introduce it bit by bit or with copious amounts of ketchup or something — slowly teaching them that the bitterness is what makes it tasty.
The original Doctor Who was an educational show mostly aimed at school aged children that used a sci-fi gimmick to teach history lessons (much of which are a bit outdated now). They would alternate storylines between future and past settings through most of William Hartnell’s run.
Towards the end of classic Who it was already much more like modern Who than those first seasons.
For sure it’s no contest. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Cooper always tries to walk it in.
IT Crowd S02E01 is probably the funniest episode of any sitcom I’ve seen
How did they steal your wheelchair?
Mournfully: “I don’t knooooow”
Cracks me up every time
“I’m disabled”
The situation just keeps getting more and more ridiculous and amazing
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Yes yes. That’s my introductory episode for people who haven’t seen the IT crowd yet.
Absolutely. My favourite of the IT crowd.
Aside from all the hilarity inbetween, the set ups to the last few gags are ridiculous and the payoff is brilliant.
Jen, talking to Roy, figuring out why on earth he’s in that wheelchair only to turn around in desperate need of a drink, to see Moss politely ready to serve her at the bar…
“Willys, willys, I like willys” “I love willys…” “What?” “It’s I LOVE WILLYS!” “—Sir, would you keep it down!?”
My favourite too, mate. So bloody good.
“A gay musical… called ‘Gay’. That’s quite gay.”
“I’m disabled.”
What kind of disabled?
Leg disabled
“Willys, willys, I like willys!”
“It’s I LOVE willys”
“Sir, can you keep it down?”
That episode is a masterpiece
The second episode of season 2 has the greatest introduction to a new character ever. You meet Matt Berry at his most Matt Berryist!
FAAAAAAAAAAAATHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!
Edit: Here’s the scene for anyone who hasn’t seen it or just wants to enjoy it again, slight spoilers but it won’t ruin the first season.
The little theme tune he hums as he sprints towards the coffin is great.
That shit lives in my head rent free and I ain’t even mad about it
When ever I think of that show the scenes that come to mind are Matt Berry’s introduction, moss rambling about Richmond not being in his room, he’s supposed to be in his room, why isn’t he in his room!? and the line " My thighs are as red as fire truck from here to here, with an undershot of his groin and Roy’s face just staring, IT crowd was a masterpiece of comedy.
SPEAK, PRIEST
Just moments after getting in a slap fight with the priest.
I loved both shows. IT crowd made me laugh harder making it the better show.
Young Sheldon on the other hand was very very good.
It’s cuz they work as a team. An IT team. Team, team, team. Team players, each and every one.
You think that’s a picture of my family? No! It’s the A-Team!
God I loved that character. Wish he lasted longer, I found his absurdism waaaay funnier than his son’s rape jokes.
What a way to go though.
He was actually a big get to start the show. But only agreed to do the two seasons. But I absolutely would have loved to see where the absurdism went. He had such a dry deadpan delivery that just made it everything he did funny.
ARE YOU SURE!? ARE YOU SURE!? ARE YOU SURE!? ARE YOU SURE!? ARE YOU SURE!?
I’ve always saw BBT as just a way to re-normalize making fun of neurodivergant people.
And a way of renormalizing misogyny.
I think that’s right but at the same time I think you’re not doing it justice by implying that’s all it is.
I’ve usually seen big bang theory compared to jersy shore.
one is a smart show about dumb people, and the other is a dumb show about smart people.
if we follow this logic, does that make it crowd a smart show about smart people?
If you think otherwise, you’re head disabled.
The problem with the r-slur wasn’t the word itself but dehumanizing mentally disabled people; I guess being more overt about it is preferable, if we have to choose one or the other, but you’re not circumventing anything.
It’s a reference to the show, but thanks for the insight my dude.
I remember IT Crowd as having some really funny moments back when I watched it, but also being very hit or miss. Looking back, the episodes with the theater gays and the trans woman were… deeply unfortunate. Also it turned out Graham whatshisface is a full-time transphobe. So it’s consigned to the trash bin for me.
BBT, I never saw more than a few episodes and what I did see was very bland tbh.
TL;DR maybe they both suck actually
Not disagreeing that Linehan has some awful opinions and that has leached out into a couple of his writings. But, the theater episode, at no point, makes the fact that people are gay the butt of the joke it’s the main characters that are terrible people in that episode, particularly Roy.
It’s like getting upset that Father Ted is racist for the episode that specifically makes racists the target of the joke.
Not at all. My issue was with the portrayal of the characters themselves – so vapid, touchy-feely, and simply stereotypical of the “theater gay” trope. Plus, after all her opining, whatshername was right about that guy’s orientation.
Also, I found the theater material a bit, uhh… it felt to me like a Rocky Horror parody written by an adolescent person. Yes we’re all singing “I love willies” because that’s what being gay is about, yahaha.
I did not know The It Crew, going through the first episode and I’m quite liking it.
If someone else is curious: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQxUFrtzYaUmbH4EzI4dxqpQt5Dhu_6Gs
These shows are both for morons who think this is how nerds act.
What? The whole charm of the IT crowd is that it’s pretty spot on for how IT people act with each other. It’s hyperbolic for sure but I felt like it was the most authentic representation of tech people in the media.
i have absolutely been called over to laugh at a circuit board. hell, i’ve done it myself
I agree; silicon valley also did a great job with this imo.
Someone writing on that show had to have worked IT at some stage.
A lot of things that happened in that show resonated with my IT support experience.
I often reference the IT crowd when a colleague is having issues… “Have you tried switching it off and on again”
90% of the time it works, eyes roll, and we all have a laugh
The fucking unplugged pc.
(And the graveyard shift goth)
My old boss called me, said please come to my office… my laptop will not turn on and I cannot figure it out.
I get there, he tells me to please help him, he is probably being stupid.
I look at his laptop, I see his charger plugged in, I follow it down the desk, across the floor all the way to the wall socket where the plug lies…
He had walked the charger’s plug to the wall socket and just left it on the ground.
I plug it in, he sees me do this, laptop turns on, I leave.
Given there was only one writer, and he knew nothing about computing other than how to turn one on, nope.
I like both 🤷🏻♂️
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If BBT was made today it would be accused of being written by AI. Fully flanderised characters, and endless filler episodes.
AKA “The Chuck Lorre Special”
