To clarify, the pictured poster Caroline Kwan is an ally, not a TERF. The TERFs referred to in the title are the ones ‘protecting a very specific idea of what a woman is’

  • Dasus@lemmy.world
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    So should someone like Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps have their “own classes”? Who would they be competing against?

    They too are “rare people who have a significant competitive advantages against vanillas”.

    This cannot be discussed rationally in the current political shitstorm unfortunately.

    You misspelled “my own ideology isn’t rational, so I can not discuss this rationally”

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      Fyi I don’t agree with the previous commenters ideology about two separate classes for women.

      I however agree that we can’t discuss this rationally today because social media (including lemmee) is a terrible forum for this discussion, because, unfortunately, a person who is AFAB and has a DSD, or other naturally occurring condition, which gives them more or less testosterone/lactic acid/something else than the typical woman, and thus an advantage, gets conflated with having a trans woman compete, because then the people who feel strongly about trans people on both sides come out of the wood work and start yelling…

      And then everyone gets pissed and/or understandardly triggered and nothing can be argued.

      By naturally occurring I mean w/o the use of drugs/doping/surgery. Which in my understanding is what’s the case with the boxer.

      I don’t post this to argue or convince. Just clarify what I think they’re trying to say.

      I won’t respond to the “are they female”/“what to do” debate, only that this forum is terrible to have these debates.

      Thank you for coming to my Ted talk/soap box lecture