“This is really going to impact institutions that we take for granted,” Internet Archive director of archiving and data services Jefferson Bailey told the Standard, “like our museums, our historical societies, our public libraries, our academic libraries — just a lot of people that keep information free and accessible and online.”

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      Imagine asking for documentation from this administration to do something legally (see: illegal deportations). Did you even read the article where the director from the Internet Archive had some words about the funding? Or the source article where they listed the cuts and even an a screenshot of a termination notice? Bootlicking is so sad. These morons aren’t gonna help you

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        yeah right, american goverment changed 180 degrees when trump became president, like thousands of people in the apparatus. If he has such power then i have so many question about bush and 9/11. Funny guy

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      You can write, but can you read? “The nonprofit was halfway through an NEH grant of $345,000 when its funding was abruptly cut.” If you want the government to document everything they can start with answering the questions from judges. Fuck out of here you goon.

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        I doubt the Library of Alexandria had permission from all rights holders to hold copies of many books. /s

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      Recent inconvinient history. They love to dig up ancient “glory days” (e.g., Ancient Rome, Teutonic knights…) and attach them to their image.

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        They’re not meticulous historians though. LGBTQ people were more accepted in the Roman Republic (and in ancient Greek) than today.

        “Caius Julius Caesar: husband to all the wives, wife to all the husbands.” was a saying that my Latin professor taught us in school.

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          They don’t care. Just like with religious texts, they’ll shop around for the things they like and ignore those they don’t.

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          They’re not meticulous historians though. LGBTQ people were more accepted in the Roman Republic (and in ancient Greek) than today.

          “Caius Julius Caesar: husband to all the wives, wife to all the husbands.” was a saying that my Latin professor taught us in school.

          Being AMAB and bottom was stigmatized to the point their swearing system revolved around emasculation threats, so that’s different from what the queer movement of today aims for…

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            Being bottom was really only stigmatized if you were bottoming for a social inferior.

            Giving a woman head was more “gay”/stigmatized than taking it up the bum, unless maybe it was a slave penetrating you.

            There’s no room or recognition for lesbians really. Trans issues are a tangled web, as they always are.

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            I agree that it should not be the goal for any modern civilization to copy Rome. They were not a just society, they had slavery for starters, but Roman citizens enjoyed a lot of personal liberty. If you were dirt poor you would not even have the time for a “nonproductive” relationship, if you’ll excuse my expression. Kids were a resource more than a cost.

            I’m not an expert but I think “stigmatized” is too strong a word in this context, I’m sure they did joke around if a rumour or a hunch was spread about a person’s romantic affairs by the people who hated them for their success or by their enemies, I’m not sure they really cared that much otherwise. Of course before the christian emperors came along.

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            Our swearing system in modern English revolves around sex, violence and infidelity, but our society is also kinda into those things. Societies are complicated.

            Edit: also sometimes people still say shit about bottoms when they curse.

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    If you can, donate to them, even just a dollar. The Internet Archive is critical for preserving history! Heck, try to lobby your politicians to donate to them if you’re outside of the U.S. (because that probably wouldn’t work inside the US nowdays)

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      I started a 5$ monthly donation. I stopped the Mozilla one after they apparently started selling info to corps.

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    Elon Musk is what you’d get if you gave the illusion of personality to a 4Chan troll.

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      He’s the poster child for scared, greedy, paranoid nepo babies shielded from reality by wealth inheritance and wealth inequality, incapable of empathy turning him into a fascist bigot idiot trying to kill other people to hoard more money.

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    Elon Musk will go to any length to scrub this image from the Internet:

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      If you are USian, you did vote for him, either by voting, by not voting, or by not doing enough to prevent it. We on the outside of the US dystopia do get to suffer the consequences without having voted either way.

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      Why make alternatives when these fantastic organizations already exist? It’s not the first time they’ve come under fire and it definitely won’t be the last.

      If vandalous cunts like Musk wish for them to go away and will de-fund them to that end, best thing we can do is donate to them and spread the word they need help.

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        I think that if we work together as people we can achieve more than just a couple of good organizations that can fade. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t donate to Wikipedia or Internet Archive. The goal isn’t to compete, it isn’t a business. Just to make things stronger.

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          I think that if we work together as people we can achieve more than just a couple of good organizations that can fade.

          That is exactly what the Internet Archive and Wikipedia are - a bunch of people who wanted to achieve a shared goal in an open, free, and democratic manner.

          As soon as you start building something to replace what they’ve made you’ll quickly realize what they did - it’s very big, so it needa layers of governance, and you don’t want mismanagement by any one person or handful of small people, so you incorporate it and make a charter of your mandates, policies, procedures for stakeholders to vote for removal of people causing issues, clauses stating the data and corporation are owned by your non-profit entity and may never be for-profit… And pretty soon you have yourself an institution.

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        Why make alternatives when these fantastic organizations already exist? It’s not the first time they’ve come under fire and it definitely won’t be the last.

        You’ve answered your own question: because one day they might not take the fire and collapse. It’s like saying it’s not the first time your old HDD has been showing bad sectors and definitely won’t be the last. That’s all the more reason to make a backup!

        I agree with you that we should donate to them and make them more people-funded, but ideally you want that taken care of through public funding coming out of taxes. You can’t just sustain every single entity through individual donations.

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          I feel this is a bad analogy, Wikipedia and IA are not a hard drive spinning in a server rack, they are community projects - made for the public good. They do not face the same issues. The problems they repeatedly face are always the same - funding (which is largely solved) and the issue discussed on topic - legal.

          The reason it’s important to defend the IA/Wikipedia and pile our resources behind them instead of splitting off new projects is that if they lose legal cases, any other projects with the same or similar goals will face exactly the same attacks and results. Unless you intend to host your replacement on the moon.

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            Fair enough. In that case, let me amend my prescription:

            Whether or not it’s the same project is immaterial — it’s about redundancy of the data, hosting it in multiple countries, in such a way that if one country turns authoritarian and wants to burn it down, they’ll be backed up in 10 other countries. The community as well should be international and redundant in a way that allows for responsibilities to shift if push comes to shove.

            Ultimately it’s about not being vulnerable to one country having one bad day.

            Unless you intend to host your replacement on the moon.

            No, just countries that don’t want to destroy IA/Wikipedia. If there’s none of them left, then we’ll have much bigger problems.

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        How does it work? Does it download all Wikipedia or any other website I point it to (like Project Gutenberg as it says on the website) pages or does it download it when I access the page?

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          You get a .zim file that is either just text on the pages or text + pictures. One I have is like 109GB~ w/ pictures. There’s many others to choose from as well I believe not just the ones I mentioned