I’m pretty sure Peter Theil fucked him over AGAIN. Thiel himself has been successfully lurking in the shadows to do evil shit and get what he wants, while Musk (although certainly far from innocent) has become the perfect scapegoat.
For months Musk was this untouchable god that couldn’t be removed from Trump’s office. They got Elon to handle all the dirty work, attach his face and name to some truly despicable shit, made him the most hated man in the country, then gradually made him look like an annoying nuisance who was disrespected by all the “adults in the white house,” and got everyone to start questioning if his mental health was spiraling, and now that Theil’s protege is handling technology and AI policy they no longer need Elon to
leave his fingerprints on everythingdo anything.I’m sure that there was maneuvering for influence, but he’s a grown, competent adult. Most of his wealth is associated with a company that has made its products an identity symbol for progressives. It should not be that hard to see that becoming a colossally-important financial supporter of, very-visibly palling around with, and performing some of the more-unpopular actions for the extraordinarily-unpopular-with-progressives Trump was going to piss people off. Having Trump do a sales pitch for said products on the White House lawn is just icing on the cake.
He was not trapped in that situation. Hell, even if he wanted to make huge donations, lots of wealthy people donate money to presidential campaigns — albeit not normally at the level that Musk did — and they don’t normally engage in the kind of incredibly-visible association that Musk did. He could have walked away. He could have even just asked Trump to appoint someone who he agreed with in the role, rather than taking it himself.
And this isn’t Musk’s first high-profile brand management screw-up. With Twitter, he was roundly criticized for the rebrand to X, given that Twitter had a very-well-established, valuable brand. Like, after the first time around, you’d think that he could reasonably have someone sanity-checking some of this for impact on brand.
I don’t expect Musk to be mistake-free, but I really think that if you placed most business leaders in his shoes, they’d have had an inkling that this was quite likely to be trouble.
I am not trying to defend Musk, just pointing out that even if he steps back from the White House it definitely doesn’t mean we’ve seen the exit of the final boss.
Yeah “blood boy” Thiel and Palantir and the like are the “deep state” the right witch hunted for so long. Pretty sure https://westworld.fandom.com/wiki/Engerraund_Serac is partially based on him with the “I’ll control the future of the human race and swim through the blood to get to the ending I think is best because I’m rich”
thiels obsession with using palintir as a spying tool is a thing for him for like 10 years already, funny it was around the same time he brought down gawker, through the hot-dog skin maniac, hogan. i read somewhere the only reason he targeted gawker, was them reporting on his business pratices, and not because of the gay thing.
I don’t see anything in the news about Epstein being depressed. Maybe Elon should try the Epstein trick.
he has to be behind bars, with guards first.
I drove past a dealership today and they had soooo many cybertrucks lol
Earlier this year, I was seeing cybertrucks on the road regularly. I believe I was seeing at least one a day on most days when I ventured out somewhere. I haven’t seen one in the wild in at least two or three weeks. It’s a little disappointing too, because I miss flipping them off.
i seen 1 at least once a week, and with the ugly wrap they do to make it look like its not a coffin.
Good.
This nazi fuck should never feel any peace again.
I try to not be happy when people suffer, because I believe we should all be working to reduce suffering for everyone and not increase it for others (even if they are “those people”), but sometimes it’s really hard…
elon causes mass global suffering
The rich and powerful suffering in kind for all the suffering they’ve caused should be the norm. When it’s the exception, not the rule, I savor every moment as it’s much too fleeting.
He absolutely did and does, no doubt about it. But it’s him suffering going to fix any of that or improve the lives of people he and his goons destroyed? I don’t know what to think about it, it’s too philosophical for my small monkey brain…
He is still causing suffering. The sooner he goes down and stops ruining lives, the better.
his suffering is self inflicted. there is a way for his suffering to end and it’s to learn hoarding all the wealth in the world and all the power has not and will not make him happy
Well if his self-inflicted suffering makes him stop an iota of what he’s doing on Xitter or with DOGE, then yes, it will improve the lives of others.
I on the other hand wish to lash certain people to crosses, Musks suffering isn’t nearly enough to sate mine hunger.
Sure, but doesn’t that make you (and me too, since I actually grinned and felt really good about this initially) very similar to him and US republicans in general? Celebrating the “right people” being hurt?
I don’t have an answer, I find it super hard to not hate the other side, but I don’t think it’s healthy or productive, and it doesn’t really help anyone… Having said that, it does feel like at least the beginning of just punishment, doesn’t it? I just wish people stopped being total dicks to each other and we didn’t have to punish anyone… :(
It doesn’t make us particularly similar in my opinion, the reason is why we take satisfaction from his suffering. I don’t know about you but to me it is due to righteous anger, he has hurt innumerable people both directly and indirectly that frankly speaking I don’t think there is a way for him to pay. His suffering and hopefully his death won’t be some grand recompense it’ll be a chore like killing a weed.
As for the rank and file, I don’t hate em. They are victims of pointless propaganda and bullshit and frankly deserve better than their given lot. That is what separates me from them, while I don’t give a damn about collateral I also don’t wish to create it unduly. I remember folks cheering as the cities were first hit by covid, I don’t feel any satisfaction from folks getting fucked over like that.
As for Musk in particular I doubt if I got to lash him to a cross that I’d feel particularly good, frankly speaking id probably feel like shit. But well I’d be doing a chore one that I think needs doing, if Musk did the same to me it’d be a flash of pleasure for him before he moves into his next high.
Punching up vs punching down
Why was the stock up today??
- It’s down 9% since in revenue compared to this quarter last year. Not good but 71% loss on net income is slightly misleading
- Outlook is often more important than earnings. People are, supposedly, hype about the autonomous taxis. But those have been coming “next year” for a couple years now
This announcement happened at the close of the markets. The price movement during active trading today cannot be in response to this announcement.
Watch the markets tomorrow, that is when you will see the effect of this news.
The stock was up in after hours trading as well. While not a guarantee of what will happen tomorrow when markets open, it’s a good indication it’ll open up.
Its an indication of what the people who trade in extended hours think, which is not a particularly representative sample.
It’s not perfect, but if it’s super red in AH it’s probably going to be at leaast somewhat red on open and likely for at least a bit of time.
Unless Trump tweets something that changes things.
They released quarterly report and this was already priced in. When no new bombshells were dropped, people started buying.
They reiterated the cheaper models starting production in H1 2025 as well. Reuters had just reported those were delayed months on Thursday.
I’d love to see how they can twist a H1 2025 guidance on April 22 and then backtrack by June 30th. Not impossible though.
Today was the day to announce any delays if they were going to do it and not face investor backlash.
The word of the day is “schadenfreude”
Oh no!
Oh well, anyway, you guys got any cool plans fro this weekend?
71% is just the start.
Sorry dude. Empathy is a weakness and all.
Good
And this is only the first quarter, when all the DOGE bullshit was still new. I can’t wait to see what Q2 is going to bring, sales drop wise. :-) This mofo deserves all the bad news that’s coming to him, I truly hope the bottom falls out of his debt ridden house of cards.
I’m sure a little special K can fix this.
Oh no!
Anyway.
Elon did to Tesla what Hitler did to svastika.
