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A majority of Americans say President Trump is a “dangerous dictator” who poses a threat to democracy and believe he’s overstepped his authority by actions such as the mass firing of federal employees, a new survey says.
The wide-ranging poll released Tuesday, on Trump’s 100th day in office, is the latest sign of him losing support for his immigration and economic policies — the two issues that largely fueled his election.
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They’re coming for you! These concentration camps are for you!
80 Billion all itemized for your oppression and death.
And fuck Biden for not dismantling the existing apparatus for it while he had the chance.
Where was this fucking majority in November!?!
Useless cunts.
They were protest voting because Harris wasn’t good enough, so now they hold their heads high that they didn’t vote for the person who wasn’t strong enough against genocide while the genocide accelerationist tries to speedrun the bad end.
They sure seem reluctant to do something about him though.
“This guy is a real threat, he’s dangerous! He’s a dictator, he shouldn’t be in power!”
“Alright, you’re the people, go do something about it.”
“Ehhh…”
Ok, so why didn’t the majority vote against him then??
He’s also racist. It’s a slippery slope.
Because genocide or some shit
who could possibly have seen this coming, except everyone. He literally is doing all the things he said he was gonna do. Surprised much?
And his cultists repeatedly say they’re overjoyed with how horrible he’s being. This country is absolutely cooked.
You guys should start actually rebelling.
He has torn apart in 100 days a country that took almost 250 years to build.
All this talk of the Roman Empire and all has been because they intend to hand over all authority to Trump. Just like the Roman Senate did for Caesar.
Clearly the system has major flaws that got us here, such as not enabling the judicial branch to enforce laws, first past the post voting leading to a two party system, non-mathematical districting enabling gerrymandering, etc.
The biggest one though, is forming the country around capitalism, which enables people who seek power to obtain it via exploiting people for profit. The now-powerful then use their power to buy the government so that they could be allowed to exploit people further for more short term financial gain.
If the workers owned the businesses they worked for and if we had a hard wealth cap of $50m by taxing everything over that at 100%, no single person would be able to obtain that kind of power/influence to begin with.
It’s quite the achievement of malice and desperation.
I hate the orange shitgibbon. I absolutely detest that moving sack of human effluence, but you’ve got to give him credit where it’s due. 250 years of diplomacy down the shitter in less than 100 days.I can only hope that history will treat him the way he deserves to be treated and that his sycophants get the same.
They should fucking do something.
Hmm it’s almost as if people are catching on to the Terracotta Tyrant! And that only after checks notes a career of grifting, skirting the law and intimidation, four years of a failed presidency, a lost election, and a campaign full of tyrannical rhetoric.
Phew, it’s a good thing the American People ™ so quickly recognize people for who and what they really are.
Start running polls asking if they think the military should forcefully remove him. Get everyone on board and used to the idea
If they don’t, someone else will
Imagine if their constitution gave them the right to do something about it…
Oh well 🤷
Almost as if Harris and the DNC should have tried harder, and the dumbasses who stayed home should have held their noses and voted.
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Almost like these people should have voted for Harris then or some shit. Who would have known, right? 🙄
All the DNC needed to do was condemn Israel’s genocide in Gaza and to stop enabling it. Instead, we have to deal with this shit. Maybe they’ll learn and they can be swing to actual progressive, but I won’t hold my breath.
That’s not true at all. Online liberals would have found some other thing to crucify Harris over. The idea that some of you guys didn’t support a candidate because of the actions of a foreign government, is simply baffling to me.
The idea that some of you guys didn’t support a candidate because of the actions of a foreign government, is simply baffling to me.
It’s baffling you because that’s not what happened, you just want to see it that way
It was Harris’ support of what that other country was doing (which means she’d actively support them to continue doing it), which is the actions of what was literally our current government at the time
Sorry, I should have clarified. I’m not in that boat, but for the people who have told me they didn’t vote, that was the biggest issue for them. Maybe there would have been something else, but I believe a policy change with Israel would have been enough to get those people out. I guess we’ll never know.
Looking at the bigger picture should have been enough, and they simply refused to do that.
I said it last summer that we were going to single-issue our way to authoritarianism, and yep, here we are.
Yep. Israel pushed disinfo, Russia pushed disinfo, and the republicans all pushed the same shit, and people bought it hook, line, and sinker.
Yeah but for sure you can’t vote for a woman!?!
I voted for Clinton and Harris enthusiastically. Are they perfect candidates? No. No candidate is perfect, and that’s the problem with online leftists. Seemingly, they will only get off the couch when they have 100% of what they want. This is also why the party doesn’t court leftists in this country. Because even if they give them 80% of what they want, that 20% will keep them on the internet complaining they’re not getting that 20.
Yep. All or nothing, perfect or bust, nothing is ever fucking good enough. They’ll screech for that last 20% (fair enough) but when they realize they might only get 80%, they’ll sit on their ass on election day or vote 3rd party to “teach them a lesson”.
I agree with them on pretty much most things, but my god, they’re fucking insufferable.
Exactly. I’m very liberal, but I’m also a pragmatist. If we get half of the shit we want, lets fucking go. The idea that every single promise Biden had given that wasn’t fulfilled was a reason to sit out was fucking stupid. The biggest one was student loan forgiveness. He did something, and the fucking republicans played lawfare to stop it and even then he still forgave almost a quarter of a billion dollars in loan debt.
Like…
How fucking entitled, and spoiled are you, that you let perfect be the enemy of good? Get out of your privileged bubble, and actually pull the fucking dog sled with everyone, instead of standing off to the side preaching about how you’d do it better.
How fucking entitled, and spoiled are you, that you let perfect be the enemy of good? Get out of your privileged bubble, and actually pull the fucking dog sled with everyone, instead of standing off to the side preaching about how you’d do it better.
👏
My favorite excuse I’ve heard is “Well, Trump getting elected isn’t my fault. I didn’t vote, which means I didn’t vote for him”.
If the technology existed for me to punch someone via the internet, I would have used it. And I’m a pretty peaceful guy lol.
Broooo I know it’s like… Fuck dude you need smacked across the mouth for talking like that.
How fucking lazy some of these people are, you know?
Lazy, entitled, and just…not even living in the same reality it seems.
Like, instead of compromising ever so slightly to get 80% of what they want, they refuse to budge and get 0% of what they want. Worse, even, because now we’re losing what we already had.
Thanks for letting me vent lol.
WHAT!?!?! The guy that said he would be a dictator on day one is a dictator on day one!?!?! Who could have seen this coming!?!?!
FTA:
For example, most Americans (61%) disagree that the federal government should place immigrants who are in the country illegally in internment camps guarded by the U.S. military until they can be deported.
Only 61%? Have I lost my fucking mind? This feels unbelievable to read.
61% disagree, 19% agree, 20% are worried that if they answer wrong they’ll be next
Consider that surveys also indicate that 30-40% of the US are essentially “Trump No Matter What” people. Maybe some variation depending on the issue.
So 60% isn’t too far off the mark for people not supporting everything trump does.
E: 48.3% of registered voters voted for Harris. Maybe if that extra ~12% of Americans that are unhappy about Trump had gotten off their asses and voted we might be complaining about a crappy Neo-Liberal instead of a straight up fascist takeover.
Day 100 of not letting it be forgotten that the republicans led a massive, distributed campaign of targeted vote rejection. They spent years getting true believers and laws and rules to support them put into place throughout states and counties, and it bore fruit. There was a disproportionately high number of ballot challenges this last election, and black folks got their ballots tossed a staggering 900% more often than white folks. There’s likely a very large number of people who thought they voted in this last election and have no idea that their ballot got tossed. This is the real shit that that dumbfuck starlink conspiracy buried. I’m still in awe that the Kamalampaign just basically shrugged and went “okie dokie! Pack your bags, Katy Perry, party’s over!” instead of doing the normal investigations, challenges, etc. Mind you, some of that IS normal, and double checking via the courts is a good thing to do; not like the Trump campaign and its like 300 bullshit ass claims, but more like ten or twelve claims with some actual weight.
For any election anywhere, approximately 35% are going to be batshit. 61% is super close to “everyone who isn’t batshit” category. That’s an amazing election number.
That fact is going to haunt me in the late hours of the day. I didn’t think that the second standard deviation of political views equated to “absolutely batshit insane”.
The movement of the Overton Window has caused some significant issues, that’s for sure.
It has not. This is the same group of people who were (and still are) young earth creationists 20 years ago. 1/3 of the American population is just completely divorced from reality, and will believe any stupid bullshit an authority figure tells them.
But that’s what I’m saying. 20 years ago, those people were at least somewhat fringe; I was pretty closely adjacent to them geographically. The shifting of the Overton Window has led to them seeming somewhat reasonable to a decent chunk of people.
It’s sort of the nice way to put dumb, being conned, ignorant, racist and shitty.
I’m really curious what percentage of conservatives fit in each of those buckets. Like 40% ignorant/lazy, 25% conned, 35% racist and shitty. Dunno how you’d find that out though.
If that’s true, sounds like NOW is the time to ACT since we aren’t picking up anyone else. Right?
I think the biggest thing I learned this last election is just how much of the country are HUGE pieces of shit. I thought there were maybe 15-20% that were on board with this Nazi shit. It’s well over double that.
We fucked up during Reconstruction, and we fucked up again after WWII. Every single Confederate/Nazi should’ve been disposed of and never allowed to have any influence whatsoever. Instead the cancer has metastasized to every single organ in the body.
Sherman had the right idea.
I think your original estimate is correct, but the problem is that they’ve captured enough media outlets that sow doubt about right-wingers’ true natures to make another 20-30% just uncertain enough to vote for the nazis.
Agree with your remediation, though. Confederates, Nazis, and J6ers are enemies of the state and should be forever barred from holding public office.
It’s a ton of the media really, not ‘just enough’ afaict. So much reporting from all the US mainstream media treats everything he says with kid gloves. If he invaded canada tomorrow the headline on CNN would be something like “US military deployed in proactive peacekeeping mission to the north”.
I mean “just enough” in terms of uncertainty, not in terms of the number of news organizations.
Though I also think that there’s a matter of degrees here. Some news orgs are doing some heavy water-carrying, normalizing a lot of really non-normal stuff. Some are definitely trying to hedge their bets, being as deferential to the regime as they reasonably can in hopes that they can fly under the radar. And some of them are actually doing really good and unbiased reporting work, but not rising to the occasion of providing the necessary context required to show how much of a crisis this administration is.
And of course there are full-blown propaganda factories, and fully-independent news sources doing great reporting with great context. But both of those are pretty uncommon.
Operation Paperclip would like to have a word.
Yeah, unfortunately it’s about 1/3 of the country
We have to learn our lesson and not repeat it no matter how many crocodile tears are pleas to Civility and mercy there are, even if they come from liberals. Not going far enough is a bigger risk than going too far
Right? Like I thought everyone agreed the Japanese internment camps was a dark spot on our history.
Guess it’s just because we like the Japanese now?
Yeah. I’m in Merced, CA, which was one of the initial collection points for detained Japanese Americans before they were put in the internment camps. We have a little memorial at the fair grounds, which is where they were collected up at. I’ve always believed that people 50, 100, 200, and 2000 years ago really aren’t fundamentally different than people today, and anyone today who professes to be disgusted by Jim Crow but still embraces modern forms of oppression would have embraced Jim Crow back then. We’re seeing that now. These folks, without even a second thought, will eagerly embrace Hispanic internment camps while denouncing the Japanese internment camps as something that never should have happened, and dismiss any semblance with a thought terminating “but this is different.”
This is really well said. Throughout history, you can reliably find people on both sides of moral and humanitarian issues like this. There were Roman elite who spoke out against slavery in antiquity, there were Brits who mocked the American Colonies for owning slaves while founding a country based on freedom, there have always been men who believed in equal treatment and rights for women. Right and wrong is usually pretty clear, and in general regular people throughout the ages have been able to recognize which is which. Our values haven’t changed much, but our systems of power and accountability have.
That said, I also believe a good amount of the right wing backlash against the internment camps was performative. Because up until relatively recently, many racists themselves understood that their beliefs were terrible, so they at least tried to hide their true feelings and spoke out against obvious atrocities like this in public. But that was only so they could be accepted by the wider culture, and so they could continue to participate in left-coded spaces. They don’t need to hide how awful they are anymore because the president is leading by example.
I thought everyone agreed the Japanese internment camps was a dark spot on our history.
They did, but a frightening percentage of the population were bothered that it didn’t go far enough.
Edit: in other words, vastly different reasons why some thought it was a dark spot.
