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I’ve used various flavors of Arch for years. I tried Nix and spent several hours failing to do anything - like table-stakes shit like installing packages.
I went back to Arch.
The way out is through
So NixOS is like freebasing Arch, got it. I’m still tempted to spin up a VM, just a taste…
It is amazing, the power of a mature immutable OS, is amazing. Frankly though Ive found the reality of nix the exact opposite: because everything is configured in the one place, updates, and changes in general are so easy and risk free (rollbacks a breeeeze). So i save more time than lose tbh.
Modules and flakes are next level.
Configure ALL THE THINGS!
Rip
Reddit ai generated slop.
I’m a masochist, not only have I installed Arch from CLI several times, I’ve attempted running GPU passthrough to a Windows VM on several different distros just to play like 3 games that only run on Windows.
I attempted this through a fresh build of Arch, 7800 XT for the Linux system and an RTX 3090 for the VM. Every attempt in hijacking the 3090 failed, refusing to not load the card on boot. I struggled with this for hours and days, and through multiple different distros, all while my gf pretended to understand what the fuck I was talking about. “Ok, honey, I’ll be in the living room watching my shows.”
This went on for a while until I decided to give up and just build a second system dedicated for MichaelSoft Bindows.
When my Plex server had a botched TrueNAS update, this effected her as well. Not only were there shows she was watching on there, but she had to endure a week of me copying my media from different drives to rebuild the server on every piece of storage I had in the apartment. I’d come home from work and immediately continue working on it. Computers left on overnight with little progress bars slowly filling up. She’d call me into the kitchen for dinner or ask me to come to bed at 1am when we both had to be up at 6am.
She was actually supportive, maybe a little annoyed, but supportive nonetheless. Everything has now worked as intended for over a year and she even uses our home theater PC running Mint with no complaints or hiccups. Soon I will convince her to move her gaming PC to Linux as well, in due time though.
Running truenas and Plex is an lol
Care to explain? I run TrueNAS because it was the easiest for me to setup at the time. I’m not smart and it was a simple and free solution. Plex because Jellyfin wasn’t where it is now, but also because again, I’m not smart and I have family outside my network use the server. Setting up wire guard and all that makes my brain hurt, let alone getting my mother to understand how to connect to Jellyfin.
Just surprised after you wrote all that for running various difficult methods of Linux to then say you run TrueNas and Plex. I think Jellyfin on a Linux server is a better and easier option and would be familiar to you.
Ah yeah, the family. That’s the biggest reason for Plex I guess
Fair, like I said I’m not smart so I was only following a YouTube tutorial on how to install Arch, first time the guy was using Gnome which I didn’t like so I had to find another that showed KDE. All those experiments and even the Plex server setup were built alongside YT tutorials and an IT friend who also has a Plex server helping me with upgrades when I needed to add a SAS card for additional drives.
I’ve honestly just been winging it here lmao
I totally don’t believe you aren’t smart enough to :) your Linux desktop experience will carry over.
I personally found TrueNas too difficult for anything other than serving as a NAS.
How’re you liking KDE? I’m the opposite, I prefer gnome but want some KDE features. So mixed.
Now that I have more experience with Linux yeah I’ve gained some skills, still just scratching the surface though. TrueNAS just worked for me, maybe just due to my simple use case as a Plex server/ light network storage.
KDE Plasma has been great for me since it (as well as Cinnamon on my Mint system) are close to the Windows ecosystem I’ve been used to for decades, so it makes sense for me. Having KDE Connect out of the box helps move ROMs from my desktop to my Steam Deck without having a dingle dongle adapter for a flashdrive, works kinda like AirDrop in my experience. Pus I like the way it looks out of the box, except for the floating taskbar which I immediately locked to the bottom of the screen.
At some point I’ll setup Syncthing and automate that process for keeping game states synced up as well.
True love.
Soon I will convince her to move her gaming PC to Linux
Soon you should convince her to marry you (if that’s your thing)
Already engaged 👈😎👈
😭 Congratulations
Aww best wishes!
I use debian btw (why do arch users get all the fun)
Any downsides to switching to Debian from Arch? If using the testing branch it’s mostly like Arch right?
I’ve noticed that more and more, interesting new projects have nix, appimg, pkg, and docker releases. So on Debian, I need to rely on non-native packages or compiling more frequently than before. Not a big issue, but it’s a new awkwardness I wasn’t used to.
no, texting is packages that are chosen to make it the next version of debian stable, the version your thinking of is debian unstable/sid, which is not a standalone os but a repo that you can change to after you install either testing or stable (unstable does not refer to the stability of your system but to the stability of package compatibility as it turns debian into a rolling release system like arch) Note: you can use Bookworm (stable) and trixie (testing) repos along with sid repos but it’s not recommended as it would make a frankendebian and might break stuff (see this for more info)
Because you are too reliable ;(
I feel this, but my other love is gentoo…if only I could get portage to just stop finding more package masks or multiple instances of the same package slot…it’s always something that makes me do another upgrade in an attempt to troubleshoot and it’s usually because I get so caught up in just fixing silly mistakes that I forget to actually get to the
eselect newsthat would have avoided the last stack of 6 compounding issues in the first place.But I love how fun it is and I’m never leaving no matter what other nix-like cults pop up
Between that and never having the money to upgrade my computer I finally had to give up Gentoo after nearly 20 years of use. I keep wanting to go back but its just too painful and I just can’t bite the bullet to do a binary install.
I’m pretty sure you could still find a decent thinkpad from ebay that would surprise you how cheap they are
i’m gonna bite the bullet tonight and go binhost on my machine.
Immutable distros are a great invention, and soon I’ll be switching to one, once I figure out a couple of things.
Definitely enjoy using my computer and less managing my computer. Trying new things and tinkering is much more liberating with immutables.
Also, not tinkering when you don’t want to tinker.
Immutables are too hard for me. I prefer the simplicity of apt.
That’s one of those things I’m trying to figure out. They’re actually a bit more complicated than your regular distro. They’re not that bad, but my mind is not there yet. I need some time to dig into it and learn things. I’m definitely switching eventually.
As someone who started with Slackware in the 90s, it took me a while too.
I switched over to Bazzite from Windows 10 on my main PC because I wanted something I could game on. But, even though most of my games work great on it, I haven’t played that many because I ended up just happy to have a Linux system I could use for projects I’d been putting off.
It’s true that if you’re used to a plain Debian / Ubuntu / Fedora system, you have to do some things differently. But, in exchange you basically never have to worry about installing a package because there’s been a vulnerability discovered or something.
The happy medium I found is using distrobox on Bazzite. Inside a distrobox, you can use apt or whatever to manage the software you want. You can even export things from the distrobox to the main OS – like, say you installed a GUI editor in the distrobox, you can have it available as if it were a normal app in the main immutable OS.
Distrobox might help you switch if you’re feeling hesitant. OTOH, if you want to fully grok the system before switching, or want to be able to customize the images you’re installing, that can take a while to figure out.
Man, distrobox confused the shit out of me the other day. I admit, I didn’t feel like digging and learning it. I just let it go once I didn’t know what the hell I was doing. I want to install bazzite in a VM and mess with it for a while until I made sure I know what’s going and also make sure that I can get all of my programs. It’s going to be all flatpak and I am not a big fan of flatpaks. I know people swear by them, but I avoid them like the plague
Why don’t you like flatpaks? I’ve basically never had any issues with them, but maybe I will in the future.
As for distrobox, what’s the confusion? Were you trying to do something advanced? Or, was there an issue with mapping things between the host and distrobox? I haven’t really pushed the envelope, but the only issue I’ve had is that I wanted my shell history to be different between the distrobox and the host, so I had to tweak my zsh startup files to detect if I was in a distrobox and save history in a different place.
Aliases.making.probably
Meme OSes are a cult of personality for nerds. I’ll try it when it’s been more battleworn and maybe gets some large org usage
Like juipeltje said, NixOS is older than Ubuntu, and I think about a month younger than Arch Linux
I mean… nix has been around for like 20 years at this point lol
It ain’t bad. The only thing I wasn’t able to get working so far was trying to build an react native expo app locally.
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whispering into the void
That’s it, that’s the problem. You talked to another distribution while still using the previous one. Yous lost your wife’s trust, then it was over.
You can
nixos-rebuildher, you have the technology.I maintain the opinion that NixOS exists solely to make us Arch users (btw) look not as bad in comparison.
How much more complicated is NixOS compared to a neovim setup? On paper I love the idea.
Much more I think. The initial setup is the hard part, and I would recommend keeping a second computer on the side so you can keep trouble shooting when your display driver shits the bed or your wifi module decides it would like to take a nap.
I installed NixOS a couple months ago, and it’s been my smoothest Linux experience to date. Everything just worked, except I had to figure out how to open the firewall for my network drive on my home server to be discoverable and usable. But that was fairly expected. I game, so I stress test the graphics routinely. No WiFi, though, so I guess that could maybe be flaky.
my wife has endured so much waffle about how great nixos is
i feel bad for her
I want to like Nix. The idea of declarative managing is super appealing. But I just don’t have the time. My dream is to leverage both worlds, a cloud native Nix based OS. Every time I sit down to plan that task it looks daunting though.
“They may be unstable but at least they notice when I’m in the room” -> As an arch user, fair. I can feel the change in air pressure as the door opens so I notice despite the noise canceling headphones
