Christian here.
Trump can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.
Your religion is rotten. I judge it by its fruit.
That’s not helpful right now.
Calling out Christians on their bullshit support of a fascist criminal that completely disrespects all of the values of their religion isn’t helpful?
@Inanimate_Carbon_Rod obviously doesn’t support that fascist. We need all the allies we can get, and you’re pushing them away.
He supports a religion that supports that fascist.
That’s whats great about spirituality, no one person can say what you believe other than you. Similarly, Christianity doesn’t have a single voice of authority.
We’re not talking about spirituality. I’m spiritual. We’re talking about organized religion, that has an awfully genocidal and hateful track record, with one halfway decent prophet who said some nice things, and also some completely incoherent things about being one with the hateful God of this religion.
I know quite a few atheist pieces of shit.
Good for you. What does that have to do with Christianity being rotten?
Well we are just lumping groups together by their “rotten fruit” aren’t we?
No, we’re describing a religion and what its followers behave like. Atheism isn’t a religion or a group. It’s a choice to refrain from belief in a god. Christianity has churches, pastors, and now presidents who lead their followers into morally reprehensible behavior. One is rotten fruit, the other is rejecting rotten fruit. It’s not the same.
Ok, so no room for me to prove I’m a good person?
None whatsoever?
I’m judged because of my beliefs, not my behaviour?
I said nothing about you as a person. My criticism is of your religion. If you’re taking it personally, that’s on your own conscience, and perhaps something you should reflect on.
A good person doesn’t support their religion when their religion is creating fascism in their country.
A good person stands up and says to trump: Despite my beliefs, I denounce what you are saying and cast you out of my religion you heathen.
But this is not what we are seeing, is it? You are against trump, I assume, yet you still defend religion before you fight fascism. Maybe ask yourself why that is.
Good luck defending what trump does in the name of religion.
The main difference between Christianity and atheism is that atheism is no organised movement. We don’t have a pope (no matter what Christians say about us, I don’t follow any of the so called “leaders” of the atheist movement like richard dawkins and his positions on the trans right movement for instance) and we don’t have a centralised structure, we simply don’t believe in ANY god.
On the other hand there is Christianity and all organised religions which, as the name suggests, are ORGANISED around a central set of dogmas which are intended to be accepted as gospel by all their members. If you’re part of one of such religions you implicitly accept all their teachings as true and you support their message and actions. If you don’t want to be lump in with all other cultists following these directions please remove yourself from this specific group or shut the hell up.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk, I’ll be here as long as needed
I know quite a few human pieces of shit.
Christ, if he was at all like his stories, was a pretty cool guy.
Shame Christianity co-opted his name.
Yeah, that’s why I said the religion is rotten. If I say an apple is rotten, people don’t usually respond by saying “Yeah but it came from a cool tree”.
The separation of church and state protects the church from the state at least as much as the state from the church. Christians should fear a “Christian” state.
This. All the Christians that support a theocracy need to stop and realise that there’s no guarantee that their particular denomination is going to be the one running said theocracy. The whole concept of freedom of religion depends on the separation of church and state.
Let’s just forget about the right to bear arms
Yeah! Let’s arm all the bears! My favorite one is the shotgun bear.
Some people like the Kodiak or Polar bears. Me, I like my Browning Bears with .50 BMG (Big Mean Grizzly)
I wonder if any of the dumbasses that are still supporting donvict yet understand what this would mean?
Log Cabin twats like Peter Thiel? These motherfuckers will come for YOU eventually, Einstein. Same for the likes of Tammy Bruce - an openly gay lesbian won’t be in a position of leadership, what kind of gawdly message is that going to send? The Libertarian dumbfuck techbros still underwriting this shit, that are also hard atheist? You too, motherfuckers! Fast talking fools like Ben Shapiro and Stephen Miller? You guys are Jewish! Are you kidding?
The loudmouth uppity women like Beetlebert and Marjorie Trailer Queen and Kristi “dog murderer” Noem and Karoline Leavitt? You too - the Babble bangers won’t be having YOU ruling over men, what are you even thinking? Best you can hope for is marrying some powerful man that keeps a roof over your head while he bangs some younger handmaidens to raise a crop of kids with his superior genes.
Maybe if they bring back the church into politics he will learn who this Jesus guy is who everyone is talking about. Might be surprised that he was a “radical leftist”
He means American evangelist Christianity. Which is just capitalism with god. They are more interested on social control of masses and collecting tithe than any actual idealism.
It’s far bigger than tithe. The article explains that the white house god office is run by someone who will take $1000 payments to send angels to people. They brought on that fucking moron Ben Carson too, which makes me think this is more about persecution if gay and transgender people than anything else. Other than that they’re just making sure all the grifters (religious and MAGA) on the same team.
White supply-side Jesus is different from biblical Jesus which is different from historical Jesus.
There’s a pretty radical idea going on in wiccan circles right now that believes the “Jesus” these Christian Nationalists are worshipping is actually something called an egregore. Now, an egregore is a non-physical entity or “thought form”, created by the shared beliefs, emotions, and intentions of a group. What’s more, I’ve met people who claim to have interacted with this being.They claim that it truly believes it is Christ and wants you to believe it, too. It desperately wants into Heaven, and it is vain, and narcissistic, and ugly. It butters you up with false flattery, empty promises and lies, and, if the true spirit of Christ is with you, it calls that spirit Satan. If you recognize it for what it is, instantly like a toxic person it flips to anger and threats to scare you into getting it to believe.
I’ve always been interested in jungian archetypical symbology. It’s really amazing that these characteristics of humanity show up again and again as if it comes from the same well. I don’t know anything about egregore but I’ll have to certainly look into it. This is an interesting take, thanks.
Any god is an egregore, like any other thought or believe is. Santa, the black man, Allah, these are all egregore with more or less power according to the mental strength and energy of the believers which are part of these groups. Of course, as anything created by humans, egregore are fallible and presents various “defects” in their behaviours and actions. The most important thing is to always remember that egregores, being a byproduct of human though, are and always will be much less powerful than any human being. Take Yahweh or Allah and place it in front of an infant, they won’t be able to do shit as the child will be uneffected by the social knowledge about these entities and thus will be receptive to their true form, which is one of ethereal beings having no control on the physical world. Anything they can do they do because we give them the power to do so, once we realise they are no more powerful than a breeze through the leaves their power crumble and they return to be what they truly are, invisible and intangible leeches praying on our mental energy.
If you believe in spiritual teachings of course, otherwise please continue not believing in such things and cussing against god and/or the modern American Christian nationalist faith, the effect will be the same
So like a poltergeist, but created by an entire population?
But you dont even follow the teachings of Christ?
The man should be investigated first for the most flagrant violations. I don’t know if holding a bible upside-down counts, but we can go on from there.
Most kings, dictators, emperors in history claimed to be gods themselves or at least to have been chosen by whatever gods were popular in their territories.
Generally none of these guys were big on following the moral teachings of “their” religion, more to claim that what they want is a direct emanation of the will of the gods, so it must just be accepted.
That’s why separation of Church and State is a thing in a working democracy and that’s (of f-ing course) why it’s now being targeted
Maybe after religion has been abolished.
It’s fascinating how the new world now desires to be just like the old.
…but I’m Jewish…
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The people who claim that America is a “Christian” nation don’t ever read anything about the values the founders had. Most of them followed a deist philosophy.
Not to mention, the King was considered to have a “Divine Right” to rule. I can see why the Founding Father’a weren’t too keen on mixing religion and government.
And Thomas Jefferson went out of his way to emphasis the separation of church and state.
I’m starting to feel that Donald Trump might not entirely live up to the bar set by Thomas Jefferson.
Sooner forget about the separation of his head from his shoulders but that ain’t happening either
Raytheon, deliver us.
I cannot respect any “Christian” that voted for Trump. Least Christ like person on the planet, quite possibly.
He’s literally the antichrist. I’m not being hyperbolic, he fulfills most of the prophecies. I’m no christian, but it’s honestly creepy.
That’s what these nut jobs want: the rapture. I’m no Christian loon but if I recall the end days that these dumb fucks follow starts with/in Israel and ends with the return of Jesus. It’s so fucked up their own beliefs warn them about tRump, almost to the letter like you point out, yet they voted for him and put him in power. They support Israel STARTING THE THING, FFS…
I have always loathed the hypocrisy of Christians, but now I’m actively rooting for the end of organized religion starting with Christianity.
I’m gonna teach about how church molests everything it touches. I’m going to teach how religion uses “peace and love” as a rouse to get you to trust them, like a predator. I encourage the state to do this
Ruse*
[Sorry for being pedantic.]
It’s incredible that the U.S. is having this discussion again. What’s the point—bringing creationism back to schools or stoning prostitutes?
well i do like my prostitutes stoned…
Yes.
GOP politics and agenda are all about control. And religion historically has always been a means of control. Add a more aggressive form of indoctrination instead of education in schools so that you have young people just smart enough to profitable but brainwashed into not being free thinkers who go tribal against anyone against their tribe. Once you have people replacing morality with religion you can alter that religion to match what ever you want as a means of control.
The Christian Right wants to make Christianity supreme and use it as the basis to take away rights of minorities including Muslims and LGBT. They want this as cover to take away sex ed and ban pornography and rap music and a long list of other stuff. Project 2025 laid it out pretty explicitly.
Watch some of the people they interview in The God Who Wasn’t There. One of the guys thinks you should be able to execute homosexuals. Just casually talks about it and you realize how the people that talked about the Nazis and the banality of evil, you are watching it.
Old-ish movie now, but if someone wants to get an idea of what we are dealing with, the interviews with some of the xtians are off the chart…if you don’t talk to xtians much, or live in a different country, or live in a more metro area that is not filled with this kind of delusion, this might be the first time someone comes across this kind of thing.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73_IjNPmIEI
Full thing:
hope this project 2025 is as successful as his casinos
It’s already more successful
That’s only because he isn’t the one handling the business, but those choads that wrote Project 2025. They just keep shoving EOs in front of him and he signs them.
To be fair the casinos are a pretty low bar, but yeah…
So I occasionally check the Fox News site just to see what the idiot commenters say because I find it sad yet entertaining…anyway for the article that was posted about htis issue several people were like “this is a good thing, because sepration of church and state isn’t in teh constitution” like bruh have you read the constiutuion? It’s literally stated in teh first amendment xD
Amendments aren’t part of the constitution… except the 2nd!
