• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    This is one of those situations where that xkcd comic about experts comes into play.

    So removing the ~/.steam directory after doing pkill steam didn’t help? That seems simpler than most Windows tasks.

    I don’t know how to convey to you that 99% of the people that use Windows wont know how to do anything beyond trying to kill the app via the task manager. I’m one of them. What you said sounds like mystic gobbledygook to me.

    Mass Linux adoption is still far out of reach for the average user.

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      8 months ago

      beyond trying to kill the app via the task manager

      Which is exactly what I said, just in shell commands because that’s quicker for me. Except pkill steam kills everything containing steam in the process name, steam is a little bitch spawning a lot of them. Quicker.

      What you said sounds like mystic gobbledygook to me.

      “Task manager” is not some fundamental term either. Someone who hadn’t use Windows, if there were many of such people, wouldn’t know that it’s a GUI application listing running services and some of the processes.

      Mass Linux adoption is still far out of reach for the average user.

      If you are going to measure it by what advanced users are used to not being immediately understandable for others, then it is.

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      8 months ago

      doesn’t mint/cinnamon have a graphical task manager? and deleting ~/.steam can be dont from the file manager

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      8 months ago

      The users on Windows range from casual not techies to full on nerds. In between there are people with different interests and different tech experience. The next likely new Linux users will be at the techy end of that range. Bunching them together is really poor usability analysis. Talking about average users is also nonsense. Out of 100 users, there might be only one average user.

      I’ve been using Linux full-time at home for 14 years+ without needing to use the command line. Linux is far from perfect, but misinformation should be avoided.

      At work I need Eindows for our CAD application. FOSS CAD is OK for some use cases. But falls far short for my car design use cases.

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      8 months ago

      I am going to invoke the XKCD comic on you in return.

      I work in a library. I help people with computer issues every day on their personal computers and the public ones…

      99% of people would freak out if you expected them to know what Task Manager even is, let alone what it does or how to open it.

      This entire conversation is vastly overestimating people’s abilities and confidence when it comes to computer use.

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        8 months ago

        It’s true. A friend asked for help on his new laptop and after a confusing conversation I realised he was upset because the web browser had “lost” his “bookmarks”. No, those aren’t bookmarks, those are shortcuts to your most recent web pages. Looks like you don’t have any bookmarks. Let me show you how to make a bookmark…

        He’s not dumb or even inexperienced with tech, he just has a different mindset.

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      8 months ago

      Wait… wait… So your average Facebook mom who has a laptop lying around that they use to watch their series in the evening, but will have to chuck it due to EOL of win10 and no win11 support, will not be able to adopt mint after she has someone install it for her, because you couldn’t get a hyperspecific app to run on it? (Steam is hyperspecific in the grand scheme of things).

      What a hyperbole.