Liturgies could consist of, for instance, the maintenance of a trireme, a chorus during a theatre festival, or a gymnasium. In some cases, the prestige of the undertaking attracted volunteers (analogous in modern terminology to endowment, sponsorship, or donation). Such was the case for the choragus, who organized and financed choruses for a drama festival. In other instances, like the burden of outfitting and commanding a trireme, the liturgy functioned more like a mandatory donation (what we would today call a one-time tax), with the prestige of such a position and other elites’ social pressure reducing noncompliance.
It should be income adjusted up to a certain income amount where it becomes net worth adjusted. This way stocks, land, properties and possessions can be calculated in to make the fines more impactful for the ultra wealthy.
Along with adjustments for not changing behaviors after previous fines.
Adjusted to the initial sale value of the car - Less easy to cheat by not declaring income, and bigger cars (likely more expensive) that take up more space, pay more.
This fails to scale into the millionaire level of wealth. Someone worth 10 or 100 million should be fined 10-100 times the amount of someone that has “just” 1 Million.
Yeah. It’s kind of ignorant to expect the same fine for say a disabled person unable to work who scrapes by on 900 euros a month vs a super wealthy person on 500k euros a year.
Fines shouldn’t really exist anyways. When for one person they’re a random expense that doesn’t even bat an eye vs for another person it means no food for a week.
Even progressive fines are unfair. In that for someone who barely affords food every week losing 2% of your monthly income is devastating. While for a rich person they won’t even notice losing 2% of their income.
As all fines, it should be income adjusted. I wanna see a 5000€ fine when some rich asshole does this.
Not very capitalism of you to be so eager to punish success
Nono, you see i am rewarding these leeches with the ability to gain glory and prestige by giving away their excess wealth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_ancient_Greece#Taxation
I agree with that, but can immediately see a loophole in it - that some rich folks are not reporting actual income.
What if we had a tax agency that could investigate that and make sure they did?
Bit of a wishful thinking to have that working in practice.
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It should be income adjusted up to a certain income amount where it becomes net worth adjusted. This way stocks, land, properties and possessions can be calculated in to make the fines more impactful for the ultra wealthy.
Along with adjustments for not changing behaviors after previous fines.
Remember this one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1759791.stm
Adjusted to the initial sale value of the car - Less easy to cheat by not declaring income, and bigger cars (likely more expensive) that take up more space, pay more.
This fails to scale into the millionaire level of wealth. Someone worth 10 or 100 million should be fined 10-100 times the amount of someone that has “just” 1 Million.
Also, realistically there is a cap to the value of a car that someone is gonna just leave parked in a bus lane.
Nobody is going to leave a $40 million Ferrari 250 just sitting somewhere after all
Yeah thats what i meant. A billionaire might drive a sub 100k car.
Fuck a fine. Take their licence and impound their car until they’ve passed a written test.
Yeah. It’s kind of ignorant to expect the same fine for say a disabled person unable to work who scrapes by on 900 euros a month vs a super wealthy person on 500k euros a year.
Fines shouldn’t really exist anyways. When for one person they’re a random expense that doesn’t even bat an eye vs for another person it means no food for a week.
Even progressive fines are unfair. In that for someone who barely affords food every week losing 2% of your monthly income is devastating. While for a rich person they won’t even notice losing 2% of their income.
The rich stay rich by not spending money. They’ll be devastated losing 2% of their income on a fine.