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Amoxtli@thelemmy.club to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 1 年前

"It's Communism": Kamala's First Economic Plan Proposes Price Controls To "Combat Inflation"

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"It's Communism": Kamala's First Economic Plan Proposes Price Controls To "Combat Inflation"

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Amoxtli@thelemmy.club to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 1 年前
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    Why? It’s all over Google: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=price+controls+kamala+harris Isn’t communism what you wanted? Communism is price controls historically. In actual practice, prices don’t exist, or matter, in communism, because like socialism, it’s predecessor, it is not an economy, but a society that gifts things based on altruism.

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        You realize that food producers in a communist nation wouldn’t be supposed to make profits, right? The problems with that in various countries were from poorly done central planning.

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            Not any more than it is under capitalism. People starve under that system too. Meanwhile you have Republicans crying that a state might pay $1.50 a day to feed a needy kid lunch at school. Why is that even necessary then?

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                Do I have a citation that starvation exists in capitalist countries as well? I don’t think comparing the rest of the world to the US, which is extraordinarily well-positioned economically for a variety of reasons, makes much sense. Even so, we have 15-30 million people in the US who experience occasional or chronic food insecurity.

                As far as Cuba, who knows how they would have done without decades of a US trade embargo. Venezuela has suffered under looting and misrule by authoritarian dictators, not communism.

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                    Authoritarian dictators. Communism. It is all the same thing.

                    Ha ha, no. If that’s the angle you’re coming from that explains a lot.

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      @Amoxtli @tacosanonymous Maybe he doesn’t trust #WaPo, #Time, #CNBC, #TheHill, #NBCNews, or #ABCNews

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/08/15/kamala-harris-economic-policy-2024/

      https://time.com/7011214/kamala-harris-campaign-federal-ban-price-gouging-food-groceries-inflation/

      https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/15/harris-corporate-price-gouging-ban-food-election.html

      https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4828758-kamala-harris-federal-ban-price-gouging/

      https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/harris-propose-federal-ban-corporate-price-gouging-food-groceries-rcna166741

      https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/harris-zeroing-high-food-prices-inflation-remains-big-112860716

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        Uh, those links don’t say it’s “Communism” which is the problem with the one OP posted. Nobody said this story wasn’t true. It’s the idiotic “let’s scare some ignorant rubes, it’s communism!!” angle. The Democratic party isn’t even remotely communist, unfortunately.

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          @zeppo Sigh…you’re going to argue that price controls aren’t characteristic of #Communism, aren’t you?

          #Brittanica describes price controls as non-capitalistic:

          https://www.britannica.com/money/price-system/Noncapitalist-price-systems

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            Sigh… uh, yeah. Communist countries control prices and economic activity to a far greater degree. Like, so much more that it’s absurd to claim that, which is the point here. The link also barely says what you claim it does.

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              @zeppo Would you agree that, generally, #Communism usually controls prices, and #Capitalism usually does not?

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                Yes, but that’s an incredibly simplistic point of view. Plenty of capitalist economies also have limits on prices. In the US, over 40 states already have price gouging laws on the books for years, going back to 1979. The EU has enacted various statutes to control prices of consumer goods as well. You could call it socialist, perhaps… but it’s also kind of silly to think that capitalism means unbridled capitalism with no regulation. That’s never been how it worked. When the US nationalizes Walmart, Kroger and ConAgra let me know.

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                  @zeppo I completely agree with you here. We are not in a pure, Capitalist society. Right now, we are in what is known as a mixed market economy.

                  However, I would posit that we are closer to the free market model than a planned economy, and the farther away we move from the free market model, the closer we get to a planned economy. It doesn’t mean that we’re there already, but, in general, moving away from the free market model sets off red flags for those worried ending up in a planned economy.

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                    Yeah, uh… so what do you think about subsidies on major agricultural products such as corn, wheat and beef? Should we cancel all of that?

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