People are allowed to want what they’re comfortable with to not be riddled with llms
My dude, you can be mad at AI and use a FOSS alternative - best of both worlds
Or you can use AI and FOSS - optimization of both worlds!
I don’t want hallucinations and lies in my open source
It wouldn’t be used to fact check you know.
I rather like AI to fold my proteins.
AI is for lying to investors that your company is going to turn a profit in a few years. FOSS projects don’t need that.
Try to separate the AI hype from AI.
AI has been around for years and we all utilize the results of that research.
Remember that at one time a compiler was seen as AI.
It’s the curse of AI: once a problem is solved, it’s no longer AI. It just becomes a tool, and we adjust what “intelligence” means to exclude the new abilities of computers and code.
Even LLMs have value, just not how they’re being used. If you carefully curate the training materials, you could have a useful tool.
I’d love to see an LLM trained exclusively on medical records of patients who were successfully diagnosed and treated. I wouldn’t want to give it a medical license, but it could be a useful tool in the hands of a competent physician. It might turn out to be useless, but we need to try it.
Stop referring to LLMs as AI for starters
Why? On what basis?
LLMs are AI as much as the enemies in a game are AI. It’s not General AI though, which companies really seem to want people to believe it is.
It was kind of OK to refer to enemies as AI back then because not a single human (or investor) truly believed that a bot in CS can write text, paint an image, or replace you at your job. Now misusing the term leads to an unnecessary dangerous confusion.
Robotic Arms with AI have been taking over jobs well before LLMs were a thing.
Yea, not everything is a binary choice.
What people really want is to not have to change anything - neither about their lives, nor about themselves.
They want to live in a perpetual 2005 where Windows is forever usable and still just an operating system. Where they feel happy and comfortable in their environment and their skills and abilities.
And I get that, because I feel it too.
But sometimes you have to change yourself, in order to change your world.
I mean if you’re dead set on it you can get a lot of modern things running on windows xp, chromium browsers, dx10/11 games, discord, etc. it’s a nightmare and you’ll have a ton of headaches (especially with the dx10/11 stuff, apparently, I’ve never tried any of this) but it’s possible
There are also hacked/modified XP builds floating around based off the source code leaks that backport some of the modern Windows OS features.
Still not an “easy” experience though.
At that point just use Mint. Isn’t it designed to feel like Windows 7?
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This is Lemmy, which is a byproduct of Reddit, and both of them have generally devolved into worlds of black and white only, although here tends to at least still have some nuance.
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When it comes to computing, technically everything is a binary choice.
except for encryption
Yeah, but some things are. It’s like, things are either a binary choice or they’re not. Whoa 🤯
u might even say its a nonbinary choice laugh track
Have you met end users before?
Too many times.
I wanted to disagree with you. But I also wanted a sandwich.
Unpopular opinion, but it’s also fine to hate having AI being added to a tried and true industry standard. FOSS is great, and I use many FOSS programs, but it’s often a decade behind in features, compatibility, & stability.
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i’m still mad at np++ for the version that supported the french media outlet that was an attack victim. not for that but for sneaking in an auto-typing text tab that looked SO MUCH like a virus especially since it was not in the original release notes.
Yeah the dev is notorious for sneaking in irrelevant political virtue signaling bullshit. I get that they want to do good to the world, but there are so many ways to do that without alienating your users. For example, partnering up with a charity. You know. Like VIM does.
TBH, tech companies showing AI down our throats is still no good, open-source alternative existing or not.
DRM wasn’t good either, tech companies are just really creative at making their products worse.
Yup, fucking captured it!
A more credible response would be
But FOSS is Malware! Everyone can see what I do tif I use it.
The FOSS understander has entered the chat
If you would actually turn on your last 2 Braincells, you would understand that this joke came from my own experience recommending foss software to people.
It doesn’t read like a joke; that’s why you’re getting downvoted. You should probably edit it to say that’s a better comment for the fourth panel. The way you worded it, it sounds like that’s your opinion of FOSS software
We are on lemmy. If I would have something against Foss, I wouldnt be here in the first place
Notepad++ is just, a top tier app
I would be happy if more and normal people were actually mad at ai.
Normal people are losing themselves in AI. I’ve seen multiple instances of people using LLM to fact check someone. Endless “uhh, but I asked ChatGPT and it said blablabla” making me lose faith in humanity.
Honestly its not much different from a google search and reading some nonsense written by someone who has no authority in the subject. As long as it reinforces their belief itll be true in their eyes
Yeah it’s become impossible to have philosophical discussions, although this truly does seem limited to the virtual world (i.e. via text, online, etc.). If I were to go have some drinks with a friend and they busted out some LLM to take part in our discussion I would chastise them endlessly for it.
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I would be happy with more nuanced takes on AI.
Instead of just “All AI is worse than the devil and is killing babies” or “All AI is the pinnacle of humanity and is the next step in our evolution”.
LLMs have a place, but it is not in every product imaginable.
Fingers crossed it’ll end up like crypto. Here to stay in the world of finance, no longer in every product that never needed it.
When someone can produce an LLM that doesn’t use more power than entire small nations to spew out bullshit, then we can start inviting nuance. Unfortunately, we have to be pragmatic here; and the consequences of lots of GenAI are way worse than returning to no GenAI.
Obviously, this doesn’t include pattern recognition or protein folding AI.
Local LLMs are a thing, so why don’t you start with your nuance, hmm?
Is it because LLMs are worse than the devil and are killing babies?
That local LLM?
Still uses that power. Still used the power for training. Still exploited workers. Swing and a miss.
That also misses the point. If we want to pull the world out of poverty and into prosperity we’re going to need an astonishing amount of power. The only key is to make power that is sustainable so that things requiring a lot of power aren’t given a second thought. The thing you’re mad at are massive corporations putting the cart waaaaaay before the horse. And yes, please be mad at them for that.
It’s all fun and games until ai is mad at you
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Sometimes you’re in the feelings phase, not the solutions phase.
Underrated comment
Some FOSS software has been adding gen-AI to itself recently, particularly where it requires you to get an API key from Gemini, OpenAI or Claude.
I don’t mind that they can do it so long as it serves those users who want that feature.
I’m chill with the amount of ai duckduckgo has, because its not in your face and it can be easily disabled.
Yeah but duckduckgo has loads of adds now, too
at least its not more than Google
last I checked you can disable that? or has that changed?
On the subject of Foss and AI - one of the G summer of code projects is about integrating an AI voice platform into Neochat and I’m somewhere between bemused and amused by the lack of reaction from de KDE/Plasma community
What if the open source software is forcing people to see AI?
Fork!
Fork people who come up with it right in the hand.
Bold of you to assume it hasn’t been bought, sued or destroyed by MS, Amazon, Google or Meta by that time.
That’s the neat thing about open source: you can change it!
It’s like the difference between renting and owning. When you rent, you can’t really do much. If you own, if you don’t like the wall color, paint it! Or tear it down, or DON’T replace the carpets! Or take a hammer and put holes in the wall to see what’s inside.
And, because it’s digital, you can make a million copies or delete them! It’s like a holodeck! You do what you want. It serves you!
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