Also, how long do you take a holiday/vacation for?
Midwest US at a large nonprofit with ~10% union workers, ~7 hours PTO accrued per 2 week pay period adds up to just over 184 hours or 23 days, and another 14 holidays. PTO accrued was tiny until 5 years seniority, currently at 13 years and I think it caps at 8@20.
I usually take off as much as I can, about a month per year spread out by 1-2 week stretches for a vacation or just to take care of personal work or projects, moves, family stuff, etc.
US. 20 vacation days, 6 personal days, 7 paid holidays.
Longest vacation I’ve taken has been about 10 days not counting weekends.
10 days is our max away from home. We’ve done 14 twice and both times it was just too long.
Australia: 20 days PTO by law, 13 public holidays (depends on the state, but no less than 10 which are national), 10 separate days for use when sick or caring for someone who is sick. There’s more entitlements for different scenarios but this is pretty much the baseline.
US, I just got to offer stage with a company and the PTO was 10 days… I’m originally from the UK, and previously worked with startups from other countries, so this is shocking to me. More infuriating was the response from my friend group when I complained about it. “Yeah that’s pretty standard” and I’m like “ok but it’s also shit?”
There’s been a continuous movement in the US to reduce workers rights since the 70’s. I offer 10 sick (mandatory by oregon) and 10 vacation, and it’s considered generous. I also pay full health care, which is considered ridiculously good.
1947 marked a major turning point for workers rights in the US when they outlawed solidarity between unions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft–Hartley_Act
The US and France currently both have around 10% union workforce, France is a million times more effective at striking because unions strike together & nonunion workers don’t cross strike lines, coordinated and targeted.
USA, 2 weeks/year but they don’t expire and I can roll them over if I want to.
I usually vacation for 3 weeks at a time, it’s a good amount of time to spend on one place I’ve never been and see a bunch.
US, self employed (HVAC, family business) so if we don’t work, the business (and by extension, us) don’t make any money. That being said, we set our own schedule, so if we want to take time off, we can.
USA, I usually take a day or two at a time, either when I’m sick or I have a doctor’s appointment.
I get 40 hours of PTO per year and both sick and vacation come from the same pool, sick days count as “points” though and you get 3 points in a 6 month period, exceeding that is termination.
Unpaid time off isn’t an option until you run out of PTO.Murica. 10 days given per year. 10 days taken. Use it for last two weeks of the year
UK, 25 days as standard (not including paid bank holidays) plus my employer has the option to buy/sell up to 5 days so I usually buy 5 extra. Also, if you have left over holiday days, you can carry over 5 to the next financial year.
Additionally, the standard legal of 9 months maternity leave.
Also, unlimited paid sick days providing you don’t take the piss; longer than 3 days you should ask for a note from the GP. Longer than 2 weeks you should arrange a meeting to discuss the situation and what (if any) adjustments can be made.
I will also point out that mental conditions must be treated the same as physical conditions so if you need to take a mental health day then you can.
Also my job is very flexible about working arrangements.
The standard is hybrid working, 2 out of 5 days in the office. But depending on what your job is you could be fully WFH or full-time in the office.
If you feel you can only work part-time and your manager agrees then you can.
And the contracted hours are 37.5 per week and flexible start so you must be available between the core hours of 10am to 12pm and from 2pm to 4pm, and as it’s the UK Fridays you can finish at 12. Providing you’ve logged enough hours for the week, if you want to finish early you can or take a longer lunch break to run an errand.
Oh and the cherry on top is the company tries to match annual pay rises with inflation and give a very good reason if they can’t fully match it. That’s not very common in the UK and one of the main reasons, aside from the fact that it’s a nice place to work, why I’ve stayed with them because I don’t feel pressured to move jobs to stop my pay getting eroded by inflation.
Sounds really good!
US - unlimited
but is it really unlimited? At my last job, it was “unlimited with manager’s approval”, which basically means as long as the manager approves you’re good to go, no hard limits, but in practice managers wouldn’t approve more than 2-4 weeks (10-20 work days) a year, usually.
There are some things that influence the actual time off:
- I am bonused on my hours billed, so if I’m off more that 6 weeks in a 6 month period, I won’t get my bonus.
- I work from home, so I don’t take as many days off for being sick because I’m not worried about spreading germs.
- I don’t like to make out of office plans, so I take PTO between contracts. If I have a lot of work going on, I take less time off.
Unlimited paid time off? That means you are unemployed and rich?
No, my work just doesn’t like to track PTO.
That’s kind of mysterious, can you elaborate? Are you self-employed or a CEO or something like that?
I am an owner in the business and we have decided that we want to pay for outcomes instead of butts in chairs. I don’t care if everyone leaves at noon if the work is done. And I certainly don’t want to track it.
Interesting, thanks for your frankness!
Poland - 0 as I have trash grey market contract.
Brazil.
30 days + a lot of holidays.
At least 2 years for sickness if I’m not mistaken.I might be wrong, you probably only get 20 in the way leave days are counted outside of Brazil. In most other countries days off don’t count weekends, so a month of holidays is 20 days off.
Every single company I worked in Brazil gave a one month holiday that you could split at most in two, i.e. the minimum holiday you could take was 2 weeks. Whereas here in Europe every company I worked for gave me some number of days that you can take like you want, e.g. there’s a public holiday on Friday? Take the next Monday for very an extended weekend, or use 4 days to have a 9 day holiday.
It’s 30 days, but weekends count. Recently the law was amended to disallow scheduling vacations to start on a Friday because of that. It can be taken in full, or 15+15, or 10+20, or 10+10+10.
You’re missing my point, when people in Europe say they get 30 days they mean 30 “actual days where they were supposed to be working” off, not counting weekends. So a month is only really 20 days. That was one thing that caught me by surprise when I moved here, and it makes a difference when comparing across different countries, because they can’t tell you how many days off using your numbering because it depends on when they take their days off, e.g. there’s a public holiday on Monday, so you take Tuesday -Friday off (which only uses 4 days) but you have 9 consecutive days off (from Saturday to the Sunday after the first one). But it’s easy to convert your 30 days into working days, you essentially divide by 7/5, and you get that you only have approximately 21 days (where you should be working) off a year.
20 days pto plus around 8 paid holidays that are set days.
Union job, America.
20 discretionary, 12 set public, unlimited negotiable, 10 sick days. New Zealand.
UK here. I get 30 days paid leave a year, and will have 2 or 3 weeks away on vacation throughout the year and use the rest of the days for just chilling.
My employer will literally hassle me to use all the days, and is not happy if I don’t take my full entitlement.
