Imagine my surprise reading this on the LA Times this morning (emphasis mine):

“I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”

Here is an archive of the article.

Here is his account.

It looks like he only stayed on Lemmy for about a month, most likely a temporary Reddit exile with the earliest exodus on June 2023. The article mentions threads on Reddit but doesn’t provide any quotes from there. User IndictEvolution on Reddit deleted their account, and the article makes it sound like they are referring to a different username that they don’t specify.

  • Samsuma@lemmy.ml
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    Fucking wild that Lemmy made it on mainstream news… of course it had to be some stormfrontian to get it to that stage…

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      If I had to choose between a bomber and something like r/jailbait (which was the medias first big look at reddit) as the sites big first exposure to the world, I’m going for the bomber every time.

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      I mean lemmy.world aims to be Reddit 2, and reddit had jailbait, fatpeoplehate, the_donald, keeps Gamergate subreddits open, r/conspiracy, and so many more horrid things kept up because it made more clicks.

      So why wouldn’t lemmy.world keep an active terrorist on board? Think of the potential money to be made.

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    These people are like the photo-negitive of Eugenicists.

    anti-natalists present with reactionary ideology since they’re obsessed with what other people are doing with their bodies. And they advocate for a totalitarian state to regulate that. But then they’re also obsessed with environmentalism?

    Maybe their lefty misanthropes? I don’t get it.

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      Maybe the term is being taken over by eco-fascists, but I’ve considered myself an anti-natalist for many years and I’m only playfully misanthropic.

      I don’t go in for the Malthusian claptrap. I just think it’s more ethical to adopt an existing, actual real child rather than make a brand new one. I think this is a really really compelling point, and I wish more parents would seriously consider it before choosing to follow their biological imperative.

      It’s like with nihilism, where everyone agrees life is ultimately meaningless, but some people are real babies about it (pun intended).

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      If you read some of the other comments here, it’s more like they’re the two sides of the same coin. Eugenicists want to kill poor and other disadvantaged people and antinatalists (at least going by the bomber’s comments) want primarily poor people not to have kids, although they seem to try to dress it up as not wanting anyone to have kids. Who knows, this is all pretty fringe stuff.

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        Who knows, this is all pretty fringe stuff.

        He personally was the fringe, but antinatalism is product and offshoot of neomalthusianism and eugenicism which are in the core of imperialism. Just the big scale ones do not bomb a clinic, they bomb and starve entire nonwhite countries.

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      I think I am a world user, it was just the top of a drop down menu when I created my lemmy. God damn it.

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        You’ve got nothing to worry about. It’s the largest instance. There’s no particular stigma for users on it. Unlike there is for the more ideologically selected instances, like .ml.

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          Lemmy.world is also ideologically selected, they deliberately defederated from the larger explicitly Marxist-aligned instances. Lemm.ee is an example of an instance that tries to be more ideologically neutral, .world is openly liberal aligned.

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            They’re a huge instance most people joined by default. No one sane thinks a .world account means anything about the person posting under it, except maybe they just went along with the pseudo-default.

            You guys think there’s a big rivalry and anyone who hasn’t rebelled against the unjust persecution of the tankiest instances must have cast their lot in with the enemy, but in reality no one really thinks about it at all.

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              I don’t judge people based on their instance at an individual level, that’s not my point. Like you said, most on Lemmy.world picked it because it’s the largest instance. However, the moderation and admins do have an ideological bent, and over time this filters out users that don’t “fit in” with that, leading to an “average user” with views aligning with the average mods and admins.

              I don’t really care ahout inter-instance drama, it’s not that deep. But I do notice trends and I understand how soft-censorship works and how consent is manufactured. Plus, there are terminally online users on Lemmy.world that do see all Marxists as enemies and wish to take down Lemmy.ml, so that does exist, and is tolerated by Lemmy.world mods and admins.

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                Then there’s me, who joined .world because it was the largest, is a Marxist, but has no idea how to even switch instances or access .ml where I would like to be 😂

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                  Personally, I try to stick to instances that will only defederate from others if there are major, serious issues, like illegal content and what not, and that are also not largely defederated by other instances. That way, I get to have a more complete experience of Lemmy / the threadiverse without missing out on major chunks of it. I think it’s counterproductive that the majority of instances defederate major, legitimate instances, especially now that the Lemmy software allows each individual user to block entire instances if they wish to. This only serves to weaken the threadiverse as an alternative to other major discussion sites. It’s even possible for instances to issue default instance blocks on new accounts if they are worried about the new user experience, removeable by the users themselves if they so wish (like lemmy.zip seems to be doing).

                  The main instances that I’ve found so far that seem to follow this “defederation only as a last resort” philosophy are the following:

                  • lemmy.ml (although this one is a bit risky for this purpose because there is constant lobbying on liberal instances to start blocking it, despite it being the original and reference Lemmy instance)
                  • lemm.ee (my main instance, appears to have the second fewest defederations of other instances)
                  • lemmy.zip (they don’t defederate from much - third fewest out of this list - but I understand that new accounts have for instance hexbear and lemmygrad automatically blocked, which each individual user can unblock)
                  • lemmy.sdf.org (they defederate from the fewest instances that I’m aware of - the only defederation they currently have seems to be due to technical issues arising from a dead instance)

                  If you would like to keep contact with the broader range of Lemmy instances, these are the ones I would look into. You can check which instances any Lemmy site defederates from by visiting <site URL>/instances and clicking the “Blocked Instances” tab.

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            It’s also run by Europeans so they decided to stomp down on discussions of jury nullification around the time somebody (I didn’t believe it was Luigi) ventilated that healthcare CEO’s head. Which is why I changed instances. Jury nullification is the last tool available to an oppressed citizenry to fight back against unjust laws and/or unjust applications of law.

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          I feel a little bit like I was duped by ml. Chose it because the devs were here, but I haven’t thought about the top level domain until I saw their profile pictures. Now, I’m no stranger to leftist views, but I’m pretty far from being ml. I might switch if things get ugly, but I can take some minor stigma for a while longer.

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              I have been exploring Marxist thinking deeply in the past but not for the past few years. True, it might be something to go back to sometime.

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            .ml used to feel similar to .world in that it mostly indicated you just joined a pseudo-default, but it feels like it’s getting more ideological over time. The devs run two instances, .ml and lemmygrad, and lemmygrad was the explicitly Marxist instance, but since lemmygrad got defederated from some large instances it feels like .ml is now getting more ideological.

            I wouldn’t worry too much about it impacting your experience or what people assume of you in the near term. It’s still generic enough that a .ml handle doesn’t automatically mean something. It’s more like a confirmation when someone is already posting some extreme things.

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          I do think it would be better if people spread out a bit more though. I don’t believe it’s healthy for our communities to have any instance approaching “default” startus.

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          But that’s me! I guess world is p heavy with the liberal apologia, so I can see it.

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            The defining trait of Stormfront of course being its liberal apologia. These people are not grounded in reality and just need to keep finding more extreme labels for the people that did them wrong.

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              No but liberals, esp centrists, have a much higher tolerance for fascist ideology, esp cryptofascism.

              It’s like when people just don’t perceive how awful racist dogwhistles like DEI, globalist, thug, etc.

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                I agree the term goes too far. I just see the connection. Most liberals are well meaning patsies, but they have a line.

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                  The last 18 months have made me increasingly skeptical that they actually do have a line.

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                  That’s an absurd level of connection though. It’s blown right past the mild hyperbole of calling Twitter a Nazi site because it doesn’t ban Nazis, past calling your Fox News uncle a Nazi for voting to “stop the caravan”, through labeling MSNBC a Nazi station because it buys into the “break the conservative fever” myth, and into the territory of “everyone who doesn’t agree with me is an actively organizing Nazi”.

                  Stormfront isn’t a site for “well meaning patsies” and calling .world a Nazi site is just making up a heroic story for why the fascist at 7/11 kicked you out because he hates communism rather than because you were being an asshole to everyone else in the store.

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            Usually is more common on Hexbear and other more explicitly Leftist instances, I don’t typically frequent slrpnk.net so I am not sure if that terminology has spread there. If it hasn’t, it’s likely due to defederation and whatnot, IMO. Just spitballing, but I’ve seen stormfront.world frequently enough.

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    His last comment contained “and that wellness is hard to measure since society does not allow people to express how they truly feel about things.”

    Too true.