The title says it all. Part of what i do now is to convince people to care about their privacy. I know I cannot force people to do anything. And I have a charisma level of -1, if this was an rpg. Like its nonnexistent.

I feel lonely in general because it feels like people make me feel like I’m delusional for caring about protecting my privacy. Maybe there is a support group for that🤣🤣🤣

But anything I can specifically say that works best in planting a seed in people’s mind?

  • Vegafjord eo@lemmy.ml
    12·
    7 months ago

    Many folks are against might in some shape or another. If you play on this, you might get folks aboard.

    From there you can show how the eye of the might is greatening their force. Light them towards greatening the force of the folks through withering the eye.

  • doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml
    18·
    7 months ago

    If you’re in the US, you could point to the news. Even garden variety libs should be a little nervous about the increasing police state

  • JVT038@feddit.nlEnglish
    31·
    7 months ago

    Honestly, I just don’t try to do anything like this at all. I don’t want to be a missionary for privacy rights, and if people decide to upload their entire life to Google’s servers, then I just shrug my shoulders and move on, because I don’t really care what others do lol.

  • Tenkard@lemmy.ml
    17·
    7 months ago

    I just compare it to having a stalker. Imagine being in your bedroom and having someone looking at you from outside the window. Now, would you be ok with it if the person was invisible?

  • onlooker@lemmy.ml
    4·
    7 months ago

    The only time an average person will care about privacy is when it’s taken away from them. Generally speaking, people just don’t care so don’t worry about it too much.

  • butsbutts@lemmy.ml
    2·
    7 months ago

    are these like RL convos, how do you enter a convo about changing their minds about privacy

    • pandorabox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      Hmm it depends on the day. I do be getting fired up. I usually send them the chart for alteenstives and show them how cool foss is❤️

      But i dont have enough charisma. Gotta roll for that🤣🤣🤣

  • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
    12·
    7 months ago

    People never want to be convinced of anything that says they should do something differently than how they currently do it. Best you can do is lead by example. Talk about benefits of your way of doing things if they ask, or if it is very relevant to the conversation. Otherwise, don’t broach those topics. To take it a step further, if people start complaining to you about problems, before you offer solutions, ask them if they are just venting, or if they are looking for advice or suggestions. Now that you have your instructions on how to change what you are doing, please follow them to the letter, without deviation ;P

    • pandorabox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      Truuu, i got gotta focus on my journey.🤣

      Gotta check if they are ready, makes sense.

      Thanks for the advice❤️

    • James R Kirk@startrek.websiteEnglish
      31·
      7 months ago

      Well said, I was thinking maybe the entire reason OPs charisma is -1 is because they’re out there trying to convince people to do something instead of just doing their own thing.

      • pandorabox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        Oh its always been bad. I work in healthcare amd i cant convince patients to do things but if someone else says it they will do it. Its a skill and charmisa issue. I know its bad🤣🤣🤣 i dont think i can improve my stats, its a locked stat🤣

  • snek_boi@lemmy.ml
    5·
    7 months ago

    We share the goal of making the world more private. I’m not trying to be cheeky or mean. I’m genuinely curious. Would you be against reading to learn how to talk more compellingly?

  • unicornBro@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    7 months ago

    I have friends who care about privacy but they need phones that can do Uber and washing machine apps. So I’m the only one i know with a private FOSS phone.

    • pandorabox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      3·
      7 months ago

      Washing machine apps? Thats wild.😭😭

      Oh all they need to do is shelter the app and download from aurora🙌 hopefully. Thats too wishful thinking because sometimes the micro g doesnt work and app from aurora looks like trash.🤣🤣🤣

      • unicornBro@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        7 months ago

        Yeah the washing machine app is for the public laundromat. I tried it on GrapheneOS with everything enabled but it was lacking something that is only on stock Google Android. I haven’t tried it on a MicroG phone yet.

  • communism@lemmy.ml
    4·
    7 months ago

    I think if you just publicly practise decent privacy, people will be more inclined to do the same. e.g. all my friends know I’m not on WhatsApp and don’t use proprietary software in general. They know to talk to me on other platforms, and the fact that I’m like this means that others will likely feel more able to do the same if they are inclined. Nobody ever told me to care about privacy; I have always thought it was creepy if others can see all my personal business. I can’t imagine that that’s such a rare innate mindset to have, so other people who feel the same way should feel more able to put that into practice if they see you doing so. If they really want to broadcast all their personal data to the state and tech companies then they are within their right to, and I don’t see the point in trying to convince them to not do what they want to do.

    • pandorabox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      7 months ago

      Righttt, its so creepy esp the ad targeting.

      Yeppp i always can be found on signal.

      Yeah i should focus on myself and let the rest come thru. Thanks so much❤️

    • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      1·
      7 months ago

      Well, I’m forced to use Snapchat and discord by some dildos at school, who are to lazy to remember my phone number.

          • communism@lemmy.ml
            1·
            7 months ago

            I don’t know what info is so critical that you can’t miss it but also can only possibly get it on Snapchat or Discord. If you use it to talk to other students you could get them to talk to you on another platform, otherwise it doesn’t really sound like they’re worth talking to, but you do you.

              • communism@lemmy.ml
                2·
                7 months ago

                You don’t have any way to find out about these things outside of Discord and Snapchat from your classmates??? How do your classmates find out then? It’s not going to spontaneously generate into a Discord server. There has to be an official channel where people find out about these things.

      • pandorabox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        I finally deleted snapchat the other day! It was hard and bf wahted to keep our 530 day snap streak.

        Discord i havent been able to get rid of yet, because im part of so many group. But slowly im finding groups on signal and matrix that suit my needs. Its a work in progress!

        Take your time❤️

        • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          0·
          7 months ago

          Yep and Discord is just a pain. It’s laggy as hell on my Redmi 4x and I have to use Aliucord for decent performance. How did you even start using signal? Is it popular where you live? I don’t have any friends or family members using it.

          • pandorabox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            Alot of people are using it! I guess ive beem invited to so many groups🙌🙌 its definitely good for privacy.

            Yeah discord has been laggy 😭 maybe its all the data they have stolen🤣🤣🤣

  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
    41·
    7 months ago

    Most people are all like: “derp derp! Nothing to hide nothing to fear duuuuur 🤤”. There’s no reasoning with them. Don’t beat yourself up over it.